Some Dos and Don'ts (Mostly Don'ts!) for Wiki Page Creation

Topic started by Alex on May 11, 2010. Last post by ScanCase 2 years, 9 months ago.
Post by Alex (325 posts) See mini bio
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Oh hi there! Welcome would-be Wiki editors! Hope you've already had some fun poking around the site and doing all sorts of crazy business to our wiki pages. I know I certainly have.
 
By and large, Screened's database mechanics should be pretty familiar to you if you've spent any time on other Whiskey sites. That said, just wanted to give some general guidelines for some of our different page categories so that when you go into make a new page, you are doing so with some measure of guidance. Now then...
 

Movie Pages

This is pretty self explanatory. If there is a movie not in our database that should be, then by all means let's get it in there! Just make sure you're searching for it ahead of time, and that when you do decide to add a new movie, you're checking the suggested movies list that pops up. It can be a killer time-saver.
 
Our definition of "movie" is fairly all-encompassing, but there is some stuff I would avoid, personally. Specifically, I'd stay away from short films that have never really seen a commercial release. Nobody really wants to see a page dedicated to the comedy short your roommates in college made for their film class. Also, I'd stay away from any concert stuff that wasn't a real event release. We don't need a page for the umpteenth Celine Dion concert DVD. It benefits no one.  
 
Foreign Language Names? 
Use the English version of the original name. Then put the foreign (original language) name in the alias field.  
 
For example: 
We have Akia Kurosawa movies that use the Japanese and the English.  Like  Ikiru and  Seven Samurai  
One movie is an English name the other a Japanese name in Roman-ji.  
 
Runtime should be the runtime of the original US release.  If not released in the US then the original release from the country of origin.  
       

Person Pages

People Pages -- Is a person in a movie? Or did a person work on a movie? Then they can be in our database, simple as that.  
 
Person Names:  Should be the name they use in movie credits, not necessarily their birth name.  For example:    do NOT change Don Cheadle to Donald Frank Cheadle Jr.
 

Other Pages

 
Character Pages -- Who doesn't love a good character page? I know I certainly do. Creating and associating character pages is super easy, but in order to avoid unnecessary work, here are a couple of things to keep in mind. One, if a character has multiple identities (IE Spider-Man/Peter Parker) we probably don't need multiple pages for each identity. It seems like it ought to be enough to just create one page dedicated to that character's various personalities. Also, when dealing with a historical character, or a character that appears in multiple, perhaps unrelated films, there should be just one character page for that. So, for instance, the Ghengis Khan character page would be associated with both the Mongol and The Conqueror movie pages, despite the fact that they're unrelated films.
Adding TV characters is fine, we just don't have the TV show pages to tie them into yet.
 
Object Pages -- Here's a slightly tricky one. When it comes to the object pages, I have the firm belief that these should be as specific as possible. What I mean is that I don't want to see pages for "gun" or "shirt" or "tree" floating around the site. If it is a specific gun that has a standout appearance in a film (like, say, "Castor Troy's Guns" from Face/Off), then that's a page. Don't do "car," do a specific car from a movie that people will want to read about, like the DeLorean from Back to the Future, or the Vanishing Point car, or Cobra's sweet 1949 Mercury. And yes, a specific object page can be associated with multiple movies, if it appears in multiple movies.
 
Location Pages -- If a movie took place there, even if it's just for a single scene, then we can have a location page for it. Real world and fictional places can both appear here, no problem.
 
Concept Pages -- Ah Concepts. These can be so many different things, ranging from the extended take, to the MacGuffin, to the ensemble cast. If it's a concept you frequently find in films, then by all means, bring it to the table. Check the Theme section before adding a concept because stuff like Vampires is already covered in there. Also make sure it's not a cliche, because...
 
Cliche Pages -- Cliches are not concepts. Cliches are overused ideas in movies that have become so commonplace, they probably will have a YouTube montage dedicated to them (if they don't already). Funny thing about cliche pages: Right now, they're staff only, as far as creating them goes. Users can edit associated movies and wiki info about them, but as of now, only us site overlords can add new ones to the site. Why is this? You'll see soon enough. Don't worry, you guys will have your cliche say...
 
I think as of right now, that's a good starting list of guidelines. If you have any questions, please feel free to post them here, and I'll do my best to answer. This is the first time I've run a wiki-based site, so I might have to go ask Snide for a little advice. But hopefully this is enough to get you started and on your way toward making Screened 80 shades of frigging awesome.
 
Thanks, and have fun!
Post by mracoon (387 posts) See mini bio
I was about to edit this page but there doesn't seem to be an edit button. Are some pages only editable by certain people (like staff)?
Post by deadly_polo (38 posts) See mini bio
thanks for the heads up
Post by zandy1123 (6 posts) See mini bio
Can we create new pages for upcoming movies? For example Wall Street 2 or Iron Man 3/the avengers?
Post by Sombre (27 posts) See mini bio
There's no subforum for combine delete requests. How do we do this?
Post by MjHealy (128 posts) See mini bio
Good stuff to know. It's now time to root around the obsecure movies bin to earn me some Wiki points
Post by Godot (429 posts) See mini bio
@MjHealy said:

" Good stuff to know. It's now time to root around the obsecure movies bin to earn me some Wiki points "

Good luck! :D Christ, I've been going through the obscure French and German films I've got and every single one's been on the site.
Post by MattyFTM (40 posts) See mini bio
Quick question - how are you dealing with cancelled movies? Do movies that were in some form of production, but were cancelled & never saw the light of day get pages?
Post by MjHealy (128 posts) See mini bio
@Godot said:
" @MjHealy said:

" Good stuff to know. It's now time to root around the obsecure movies bin to earn me some Wiki points "

Good luck! :D Christ, I've been going through the obscure French and German films I've got and every single one's been on the site. "
I'm sure some of those back-catalouge films haven't actually been filled out yet.
Post by Alex (325 posts) See mini bio
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@MattyFTM said:
" Quick question - how are you dealing with cancelled movies? Do movies that were in some form of production, but were cancelled & never saw the light of day get pages? "
It is my preference that you stick to movies that have been commercially released in some capacity.
Post by heat (2 posts) See mini bio
What is a "Deck" on the add movie form?
Post by ZombiePie (167 posts) See mini bio
Good stuff to know. I'll jot down a mental image.
Post by Damien (7 posts) See mini bio
Just clarifying but straight-to-video movies count right?  So I can get to adding The Land Before Time 2-13?  What about the 2 sing-a-longs?
Post by mracoon (387 posts) See mini bio
Also, is there a way to add releases. I see pages with blank 'UK Release' Date' info, so is there a way to change that?
Post by MasterOfPenguins_Zell (40 posts) See mini bio
I HATE Mirror Scares! ;__; They make me afraid to look up into the mirror when I brush my teeth.
Post by TheAdmin (50 posts) See mini bio
Character question...  
I noticed that this character -> Has the show in parenthesis: 
 http://www.screened.com/kate-austen-lost/15-4/ 
 
Should generic named characters have the show or movie in parenthesis next to the name to separate them or is this just an exception?  Should other characters in the lost series also have the parenthesis on the character line? 
Post by mracoon (387 posts) See mini bio
Oh my god!! I just saw the DVD release feature and it's amazing. If only everything could be this simple.
Post by ethan (746 posts) See mini bio
Staff
@TheAdmin said:
" Character question...  
I noticed that this character -> Has the show in parenthesis: 
 http://www.screened.com/kate-austen-lost/15-4/  Should generic named characters have the show or movie in parenthesis next to the name to separate them or is this just an exception?  Should other characters in the lost series also have the parenthesis on the character line?  "
Yeah that's a mistake.  Should just be the character name.
Post by ethan (746 posts) See mini bio
Staff
@mracoon said:
" Oh my god!! I just saw the DVD release feature and it's amazing. If only everything could be this simple. "
Someday everything WILL be that simple.
Post by ethan (746 posts) See mini bio
Staff
@mracoon said:
" Also, is there a way to add releases. I see pages with blank 'UK Release' Date' info, so is there a way to change that? "
Just taking US, JAPAN and UK release dates right now.  Then you can also attach DVDs to each movie.
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