Why is the movie release date Anglo-centric?

Topic started by Freezerr on May 24, 2010. Last post by theodacourt 1 year, 3 months ago.
Post by Freezerr (133 posts) See mini bio
Obviously, for most Hollywood films, the American release date is the most important. But for foreign films, it can quickly become silly and strange to stick to this. Take 
The Lovers On The Bridge, a French film released in France on October 16, 1991, and in the rest of continental Europe throughout 1992. As it never came to GB or AUS at all, and only to USA in 1999, the release date for the page is exclusively 1999.

I feel this is misleading and inaccurate for an encyclopedia-like site. Why not have a worldwide premiere date as the primary date, with optional fields for the US, UK, and AUS releases if they differ?
Post by FilmyGecko (21 posts) See mini bio
Huh, as a  over-privileged American kid I never thought of that.  Someone should totally fix that.  
Post by Walker_after_dark (238 posts) See mini bio
There's also the question of movies that never had a real US release at all. Do you leave the date blank, or do you use the release date in the original country as the US release date so that the movie at least has some date associated with it? Both options are misleading, so a worldwide or original premiere date would be a really good addition.
Post by HandsomeDead (1,691 posts) See mini bio
It's the same with the MPAA ratings as some films seem to get released on Unrated DVD.and there's no option for that.
Post by MisterFlannery (14 posts) See mini bio

This is a problem I've been having as well. I've been working on adding a lot of French films and many of them were very successful but were never released in the US, UK or Australia; or, were brought over many years later. An option for "Original Release" would be a wonderful addition and a boon to the site's accuracy.

Post by CrimsonAvenger (1,277 posts) See mini bio

Yeah we definitely need a better release date field because the way it is currently isn't very good. I know this isn't the first time this has been brought up (or maybe this was the first thread about it) but maybe this time something will happen. Because nothing to my knowledge has changed about this problem (right?).

Post by VioletEyedDragon (1,813 posts) See mini bio

@CrimsonAvenger said:

Yeah we definitely need a better release date field because the way it is currently isn't very good. I know this isn't the first time this has been brought up (or maybe this was the first thread about it) but maybe this time something will happen. Because nothing to my knowledge has changed about this problem (right?).

we should have a page for first release. But the most important is US since that is

1) when everyone sees it

2) when the reviews come out

3) the year it is eligible for Oscars.

I want to watch the current movies and I do that by the US release date. And the US release date is almost always within six months of all the other release dates with the exception of the original country. Also, if we go by original release that includes film festivals, which shouldn't count.

Post by ashogo (754 posts) See mini bio

@VioletEyedDragon said:

@CrimsonAvenger said:

Yeah we definitely need a better release date field because the way it is currently isn't very good. I know this isn't the first time this has been brought up (or maybe this was the first thread about it) but maybe this time something will happen. Because nothing to my knowledge has changed about this problem (right?).

we should have a page for first release. But the most important is US since that is

1) when everyone sees it

How do you figure that? There are many non-US users on screened who will be totally thrown off by our anglo-centric system.

Post by sissylion (871 posts) See mini bio

Screened is an American site, first and foremost. It's the reason why City of God is City of God and not Cidade de Deus. It's made to be inclusive of other countries and languages, but it's an American website made primarily for Americans.

Also America is the most important country hoo-rah

Post by ashogo (754 posts) See mini bio

@sissylion: I've never seen it that way. Screened is a movie database whose staff happen to be located in the United States, but that doesn't mean we should limit ourselves, especially in regards to the release dates. It's true that our reviews and articles are coming from a mostly American perspective, but the world of cinema is way too vast to take such a narrow-minded approach, and I'm sure that our American users are just as interested in seeing the original release date of a foreign film as our non-US members are.

Post by vonDread (62 posts) See mini bio

@sissylion said:

Also America is the most important country hoo-rah

I really hope that's sarcasm.

I must concur with the majority in stating the release date options for this site are woefully inadequate.

Post by CrimsonAvenger (1,277 posts) See mini bio

I agree that our release date should be first and foremost since Screened is an American site but we still need incorporate the release dates of films from countries besides those that have release date fields currently.

Post by theodacourt (265 posts) See mini bio

I think IMDb goes off the American release dates primarily and that website was started in Britain so there is precedent for it.

Also I think whilst Screened isn't 'made for Americans', international visitors come to it as an American site, just as if I'd bought a BMW and acknowledge it as being German. It drives the same roads equally effectively. I also wouldn't expect Screened to cover TV show's from the UK/the world if they're not shown in the US.

IMDb has a whole page for the different release dates and I can't think of a more elegant solution, so whilst it would be nice to have all this information available it would take an awful lot of time to put in to place, a lot of time for people to enter up to 30+ release dates per film and not a huge amount of people are going to use that information. I'm sure resources can be put to more pressing and important matters.

Post by VioletEyedDragon (1,813 posts) See mini bio

@ashogo said:

@VioletEyedDragon said:

@CrimsonAvenger said:

Yeah we definitely need a better release date field because the way it is currently isn't very good. I know this isn't the first time this has been brought up (or maybe this was the first thread about it) but maybe this time something will happen. Because nothing to my knowledge has changed about this problem (right?).

we should have a page for first release. But the most important is US since that is

1) when everyone sees it

How do you figure that? There are many non-US users on screened who will be totally thrown off by our anglo-centric system.

because the US release almost always occurs within a month of all the other major releases except for the film's home country and four months after the US release it comes out online legally as well as on most regions DVDs meaning anyone can see it then.

Post by ashogo (754 posts) See mini bio

@theodacourt said:

I think IMDb goes off the American release dates primarily and that website was started in Britain so there is precedent for it.

IMDb actually goes by original release date in home country for most cases. It especially makes sense for foreign movies which don't see release overseas for 4, 5+ years.

Post by Delta_Assault (251 posts) See mini bio
Wikipedia shows both the original release date and the North American release date, which is pretty smart.
Post by theodacourt (265 posts) See mini bio

@ashogo: I stand corrected, sir!

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