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A still from PAN'S LABYRINTH, one of del Toro's highest reviewed films.

Source: Cinemablend, which got it from Deadline

Guillermo del Toro (Pan's Labyrinth, the Hellboy movies) is still putting the finishing touches on his bid-budget action extravaganza Pacific Rim, but when he is done, he will move on to his next directorial project: An original horror story called Crimson Peak. Del Toro, who wrote the screenplay with Matthew Robbins (and is rewriting it with Lucinda Coxon), describes it as "a very set-oriented, classical but at the same time modern take on the ghost story" that will let him "play with the conventions of the genre...and at the same time subvert the old rules." So, no, there isn't anything resembling a plot synopsis.

A few weeks ago, the word was that del Toro was planning to follow up Pacific Rim with a dark, motion-capture retelling of the Pinocchio story, currently titled Pinocchio. Obviously, this news puts that project in question. It is possible that Mark Gustafson, who was said to be directing Pinocchio with del Toro, will do it solo. It is also possible that the project would be post-poned indefinitely. The del Toro/Gustafson film was already in a difficult position since the announcement that Tim Burton and Robert Downey Jr. might be making their own Pinocchio movie.

Del Toro said he is still hoping to make his passion project At the Mountain of Madness (an R-rated monster war epic) and hinted that studio and distributor Legendary might fund this if Pacific Rim is a success.

Fuck live action Pinnochio movies!!! Everyone one of them has sucked and I doubt even Del Toro could direct a good one.

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

Fuck live action Pinnochio movies!!! Everyone one of them has sucked and I doubt even Del Toro could direct a good one.

This!

Quick sort of related question. Why is Guillermo del Toro popular? Is it solely because of Hell Boy and Pan's Labyrinth? I watched Hell Boy a while ago and thought that it was kinda lame.

@alexpiercey said:

Quick sort of related question. Why is Guillermo del Toro popular? Is it solely because of Hell Boy and Pan's Labyrinth? I watched Hell Boy a while ago and thought that it was kinda lame.

Because of Pan's Labyrinth. I hope you aren't one of those ignorant people who refuse to watch movies with subtitles. As for Hellboy I preferred the sequel.

@Ghost_of_GhostDad: No, I've caught a bit of it on TV once, but I've never seen the whole thing. I only ask because it seems weird that trailers for movies he`s worked on usually call him out, with a big "Guillermo del Toro Presents!" thing. I don't think the average person knows who he is.

@alexpiercey: It's their lost then. Pan's Labyrinth was awesome.

@alexpiercey said:

@Ghost_of_GhostDad: No, I've caught a bit of it on TV once, but I've never seen the whole thing. I only ask because it seems weird that trailers for movies he`s worked on usually call him out, with a big "Guillermo del Toro Presents!" thing. I don't think the average person knows who he is.

Anyone who has directed a horror movie that didn't suck gets their name slapped on a horror movie as So and So Presents if they so much as glance at the script. That also happens a lot with Sam Raimi and Wes Craven's name.

@Stuka69 said:

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

Fuck live action Pinnochio movies!!! Everyone one of them has sucked and I doubt even Del Toro could direct a good one.

This!

I said MOTION CAPTURE.

@VioletEyedDragon: So motion capture as in Coraline or motion capture as Andy Serkis as Gollum or Caesar? I get that the original Pinocchio is most likely in the public domain, a great story. and contains some dark elements that the Disney movie glossed over. Having for some reason seen several of the non Disney Pinocchio movies I can say that they are all terrible save for the animated one done by Don Bluth or Ralph Bakshi who I believe had the shit sued out of them by Disney.

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

@VioletEyedDragon: So motion capture as in Coraline or motion capture as Andy Serkis as Gollum or Caesar? I get that the original Pinocchio is most likely in the public domain, a great story. and contains some dark elements that the Disney movie glossed over. Having for some reason seen several of the non Disney Pinocchio movies I can say that they are all terrible save for the animated one done by Don Bluth or Ralph Bakshi who I believe had the shit sued out of them by Disney.

CORALINE was stop-motion. I mean motion-capture, like BEOWULF.

@VioletEyedDragon said:

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

@VioletEyedDragon: So motion capture as in Coraline or motion capture as Andy Serkis as Gollum or Caesar? I get that the original Pinocchio is most likely in the public domain, a great story. and contains some dark elements that the Disney movie glossed over. Having for some reason seen several of the non Disney Pinocchio movies I can say that they are all terrible save for the animated one done by Don Bluth or Ralph Bakshi who I believe had the shit sued out of them by Disney.

CORALINE was stop-motion. I mean motion-capture, like BEOWULF.

My bad I guess I was trying to repress memories of creepy dead eyed multiple Tom Hanks from Polar Express. I thought Mars Needs Moms killed motion capturing or was The Adventures of Tintin international success enough to save the animation style?

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

@VioletEyedDragon said:

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

@VioletEyedDragon: So motion capture as in Coraline or motion capture as Andy Serkis as Gollum or Caesar? I get that the original Pinocchio is most likely in the public domain, a great story. and contains some dark elements that the Disney movie glossed over. Having for some reason seen several of the non Disney Pinocchio movies I can say that they are all terrible save for the animated one done by Don Bluth or Ralph Bakshi who I believe had the shit sued out of them by Disney.

CORALINE was stop-motion. I mean motion-capture, like BEOWULF.

My bad I guess I was trying to repress memories of creepy dead eyed multiple Tom Hanks from Polar Express. I thought Mars Needs Moms killed motion capturing or was The Adventures of Tintin international success enough to save the animation style?

i thought the look of POLAR EXPRESS was gorgeous, but I know a lot of people find it creepy. I guess visual appeal is not something you can easily quantify.

@VioletEyedDragon said:

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

@VioletEyedDragon said:

@Ghost_of_GhostDad said:

@VioletEyedDragon: So motion capture as in Coraline or motion capture as Andy Serkis as Gollum or Caesar? I get that the original Pinocchio is most likely in the public domain, a great story. and contains some dark elements that the Disney movie glossed over. Having for some reason seen several of the non Disney Pinocchio movies I can say that they are all terrible save for the animated one done by Don Bluth or Ralph Bakshi who I believe had the shit sued out of them by Disney.

CORALINE was stop-motion. I mean motion-capture, like BEOWULF.

My bad I guess I was trying to repress memories of creepy dead eyed multiple Tom Hanks from Polar Express. I thought Mars Needs Moms killed motion capturing or was The Adventures of Tintin international success enough to save the animation style?

i thought the look of POLAR EXPRESS was gorgeous, but I know a lot of people find it creepy. I guess visual appeal is not something you can easily quantify.

It's that whole uncanny valley thing. I thought motion capturing worked for Tintin and Monster House (from Screened favorite Dan Harmon) because there was more of an exaggerated cartoon quality to the characters. Where as I found the attempt at making realistic looking characters like in Beowulf and Polar Express was a bit unnerving.

@Ghost_of_GhostDad: I get what you mean. Even though I like it, I will admit it is definitely weird and a little unnatural.