The True Glory of Film: How Arguing Makes a Better Movie

Topic started by Surllio on April 28, 2012. Last post by Surllio 1 year, 1 month ago.
Post by Surllio (88 posts) See mini bio

So sitting at work today I got asked a curious question that I, as a film maker, never really think about. "What is a Director of Photography?" To me, the Director of Photography, or DP, is my best friend and worst enemy on the set. See, I'm a director, and as the director, the DP's job is make my vision come true.

So how does this make him my best friend and worst enemy? Well, film sets are very tense, stress filled places packed full of hundreds of people moving in different directions with different lines of communication.

A director is seen as the highest individual on the chain. This is not the truth. The various producers are the top of the chain. There are always two directors on set. The Director, and the Director of Photography or Cinematographer. They both come together to make a single shot of a film work.

So the break down goes like this. Producer (Executive Producer, Producer, Associate Producer), Director, Director of Photography, Actors, Writer, Crew.

The Executive Producer is the money guy. The man in charge of wrangling in the sponsors and shelling out his own pocket cash in hopes of turning over a profit and making another venture. The regular producers also have a bit of cash in the venture, but usually not nearly as much. Their job lies more in the connections. Who to call, where to get stuff, how to get it. They have contacts in just about every business or walk of life. The Associate Producer is generally a sponsor of the film, or someone associated with a major part of the film like an actor or writer. Their job is entirely the business side of industry.

Who I would like to think I am.
Who I would like to think I am.

The director's job is very much glorified in most people's perspective. He isn't the die hard movie maker in charge of everything. He IS the captain of the ship. He has a very direct line to the producers, and just him. He is the guy having to answer all their questions, and when you shell out hundreds of millions of dollars, you have a lot of questions. They also deal directly deal with the actors. They see to it their demands are met, they are on the same page creatively, and all the other fun things that come with the wonderful moving props. The last part of the director's job is to over see the overall artistic vision of the film comes through. This vision is of his own choosing. To sum it up, the director is in charge of the artistic and the emotional side of the film.

The Director of Photography is very much like the director, but his job is more technical. He is more in charge of crew. He handles the every day people on the set, and instructs them on how to make things work. He has to have a strong knowledge of how to make things happen. His knowledge is all about how this will look on camera, how that lighting will effect the visuals, what sort of filters need to be used. He needs to know how the camera is moving, what it is seeing, and every little detail of the shot. Basically, he is making sure that what the director wants happens on camera.

What does all this lead to? Two people dealing with a whole boat load of people, and having to come together for a single vision, both of them with singular ideas for what happens. Most of the time, it is easy to come to an agreement with what to do with a shot. The Director and the DP often times will create beautiful work together. The fact is that they are worst enemies because both of them are dealing with too many people, each one in charge of one half of the production. If one is agitated cause of one little thing, it makes the communication harder, and often times difficult to come to an agreement. Producers endlessly questioning why, looking at production times and dailies (the best of the shot footage from that day), and trying to figure out why its working better this day than that day keeps a director on edge. Actor demands often compound this issue, often times pushing him to his very limits. The DP's frustrations come from having to maintain countless crew members and keep them on track, on schedule, and working together. When things on the DP's side fall apart, it becomes a cascade effect that continues to boulder down hill, constantly getting worse.

The tensions this builds to is the reason you often see two to four assistants for each of the directors. It allows them helping hands, and allows their presence in other areas of the production without having to pull their focuses away from that tasks at hand. It doesn't stop the tensions from building though.

The fights that directors and DPs have though generally leads to something amazing. After a fight, they two usually go off and think about what just happened, generally calling into question the shot they were trying to capture. The re-evaluation of the shot in question will force the two of them to think of different things, and when they've cooled off and came back together, they then will discuss the new ideas, and settle on something that wasn't in the original plan.

This is where the art of film making really is art. Pushing two individuals to their tension points will bring out creative thoughts they never originally had. Some of the most amazing, artistic, and powerful visual shots captured were come to in moments of anger and need to finish.

Just thought it was a neat story, and that I'd share a good bit of my film knowledge with the community.

Robert Out.

Post by gangly (1,273 posts) See mini bio

I'll absolutely agree that, as a collaborative art, film making is the best when multiple people can combine their ideas to create a better (and sometimes unexpected) whole. But the idea that actual fights and arguments from which both sides need to "cool off" seems unprofessional, immature, and like a complete waste of time. Not saying to you are any of those things, but it seems like this blog is promoting the falsity that anger is part of the movie making process, which I think is a bad lesson to learn.

Post by Surllio (88 posts) See mini bio

Well, having been on enough sets and done a few director stints, it happens. Its not a maturity thing. Tensions get so high, often times it doesn't take much to just send someone into a frenzy. We all have our breaking points, and 1 to 3 months with same people just gets to you. That wasn't the point I was trying to make. I was trying to show that sometimes, an argument makes us stop and re-evaluate what we were fighting about, which leads to renewed creative thinking. I may have to pull this down and evaluate that point though.

Post by Shaunage (122 posts) See mini bio

When I'm behind the camera on a collaborative film project for university, I pretty much consider myself the director. I see how it becomes a tougher breakdown with a bigger and more professional team.

Post by damnitsted (317 posts) See mini bio

I applaud you.

As a small time producer and occasional 1st AD, I'm glad that everyone involved knows how hectic everything is. I am glad there are two circle on this Venn Diagram called "People"... there are the creative and the savvy, and I love how film is a place for the circles to meet and make great things happen.

Post by Black_Rose (591 posts) See mini bio

@gangly said:

But the idea that actual fights and arguments from which both sides need to "cool off" seems unprofessional, immature, and like a complete waste of time. Not saying to you are any of those things, but it seems like this blog is promoting the falsity that anger is part of the movie making process, which I think is a bad lesson to learn.

I agree, a conflict of ideas is absoultely essential in the director-DP relationship, but straight-up fighting makes you look unprofessional and might make the crew lose respect and confidence in your ability to lead them to the greater artistic good.

@Shaunage said:

When I'm behind the camera on a collaborative film project for university, I pretty much consider myself the director. I see how it becomes a tougher breakdown with a bigger and more professional team.

Yeah, in university is somewhat more complicated because everyone is learning what their place in the whole thing is, I've had people from lower semesters working on my projects as assistants and sometimes they come up to me with their "brilliant" idea on how to set up a shot I've been wokring on for weeks, which is perfectly valid there but I can't imagine the director of a big production accepting that.

Post by Surllio (88 posts) See mini bio

Alright, I think I need to rework this a bit. I believe the fighting I spoke of is taking too much of the overall meaning from what I was trying to push. I've been part of some of these meltdowns on set. They happen. I wasn't trying to glorify the bickering. What I learned in my experiences is usually after an argument, the two of them generally come back together with renewed purpose. Its unprofessional, it has an effect on crew, but it just happens from time to time. The need to make the crew feel better, the re-evaluation of what caused the blow up or fight, the need to get everything going again, reaffirms the need to make better the wrong that had occurred.

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