Why Prometheus was Something Special

Topic started by RadioactiveGazz on June 12, 2012. Last post by GetEveryone 1 year ago.
Post by RadioactiveGazz (15 posts) See mini bio

I wrote this for my stepdad, who saw Prometheus and disliked it, and I feel he was unable to see why anyone might perceive the film as great. His criticisms were valid, and this film, like many of Ridley Scott's movies in the past, has split the audience down the middle. I like the movie, but acknowledge its flaws. I feel those who dislike it fail to acknowledge many of the aspects that make it great, since they are so tightly hidden. So this applies to many people, not just my stepdad.

Richard,

Having just now watched your terrible quality cam-footage copy of prometheus, my second viewing, I think you missed the point of the movie entirely. While many of your complaints are valid, it really isn't like you to be oblivious to the other side of the coin, and while you are fully entitled to your opinion, here, I aim to address why me and so many others oppose it. I'll directly address some of the complaints you made, as well as others you did not, that may still have played a role in your overall view of the movie.

Firstly, I'll get the pirate copy argument out of the way, since it is the least relevant point concerning the movie itself. Watching such an awful copy is not just robbing yourself of the visual beauty of this movie (and holy hell it is one very nice looking movie), the visual fidelity can have a much more damaging effect on your experience than you may think. It makes the movie an uncomfortable watch, and the bad quality creates a barrier between the viewer and the movie, a constant reminder that they are watching a film, halting almost any chance of immersion before it even begins. I watched Kick-Ass on a similarly terrible copy, and didn't think much of it, but was convinced to watch it at the cinema a few weeks later, now it remains one of my favourite comic book movies. I don't plan to ever watch another filmed-in-the-cinema movie again for this reason. Movie is a a visual art form, anyone would agree, to remove that level of connection seems counterproductive. That said, moving on.

I saw that you complained about everything revolving around humans, in modern science fiction, and how you dislike it. I agree, as cinema always seems to make sure that things revolve around humans to give the audience a better stake in the plot, feel more connected. A cheap trick, and a valid complaint of cinema itself. However, I would argue that in Prometheus' case, it isn't that it doesn't revolve around humans, as instead, humans (and all other life, it seems) revolve around them. As Halloway says "There is nothing special about the creation of life", we are not really any more than an experiment by these engineers. It is a more cynical approach, to say that humans are really nothing special, just a product of something more special. Of course, the same trick is still played, by putting earth at stake, but the plot justifies this quite well (more on that later).

The parallels to greek mythology are clear (and very on-the-nose, as with the title itself). The purpose of creating the Xenomorphs to kill (or alter) humans is because they created us, and do not want us on their level of greatness. This is a little petty, almost human, they created the next possible dominant life on the galaxy, though the reasons are not fully clear. However, In the conversation between Halloway and David, Halloway says humans created david "because we could". Who says it needs to be any different for the engineers, and now they feel well within their right to destroy that life. When David says "A superior species, no doubt", he is not especially right. They are technically superior, and being an android, this is likely the only perspective he can see it from. They are in the sense that they have mastered space travel and the creation of life, but they are not above wiping out an entire species out of fear of competition. Once humans do the same, they are the gods, as Weyland alludes to in the promotional "TED 2023" video released a few months back. The engineers don't want that, and seek to destroy us, possibly to replace them with a new species, the Xenomorphs. Why? because they can. Whether they choose to destroy us, replace us, or genetically change us, is left to speculation. What is clear is that they are not happy with us the way we are.

They are also not above dropping test tubes full of their own weaponry, it seems. If they hadn't been so clumsy, we would have been gone around 2000 years ago, but in that downtime, we leapt into space and found them, becoming exactly what they feared, hence the anger from the slumbering engineer after the initial shock of waking to find Weyland on his doorstep with their robot child, asking where babies come from, and the secret to immortality.

Of course, Weyland was there all along, to find his answers before he dies. A plot twist with little reason or impact behind it, but can still be justified within the movie. That life pod was for him (not his apparently android-envious daughter), as shown by the fact that the automated medical table was calibrated for male patients only. I am not sure why he chose to keep his involvement a secret, but he seems the kind of guy that would like to keep his cards close to his chest. Beyond that, I agree that his involvement was only really to provide a plot twist to the already-messy third act. However, his involvement does justify David's habit of touching potentially dangerous shit, because his only priority is finding a living Engineer for Weyland. He doesn't really care for the safety of the other crew members, and I feel this bizarre and baffling behavior from the android served better when left mysterious until late in the movie. If we knew that Weyland was directly behind his bahvior, some moments would lose their impact and mystery, such as the scene slipped black goo into Halloway's drink. He is trying to see what will happen at any cost, and he even first asks what hallway himself would do for answers, almost like he is asking for his consent. While his motivations are left floating in the wind, it allows the audience to contemplate the morality of this android, and perhaps all androids. Of course, he is just following his programming, though we later hear he has a very interesting take on his own freedom later in the movie. This arc with David relied on this seemingly cheap plot-twist.

More to address other people's concerns now, rather than your own; I have heard many complaints about inconsistencies with some elements of the film, most prominently, the effects of the black goo. It seems to destroy the engineer at the beginning to tera-form earth (supposedly), and does something similar to Halloway, but slower, due to a smaller dose. In contrast, it also appears to make the mean-guy stereotype super dangerous and mutated, and he nearly wipes out the crew on his own. However, to clear any confusion, there are two separate substances; the stuff the Engineer drank at the start and Halloway drank is the same stuff, but the other black goo that leaks from the vases is different, this is what the mean-guy came into contact with. Notice; when they walked into the vase room, disrupting the atmosphere, the vases went damp, and seemed to melt out a liquid all over the floor. When someone steps on the ground in this scene, you see worms beneath their feet (this was not clear on the cam-rip). I assume that the black liquid mutated the worm-like creatures They now have an instinctive nature to kill, and the means to do it. The same happens to the mean geologist, after getting a face-full of the stuff, during the struggle with the now-mutated worm things. Allow me to speculate a moment. This liquid's gives things Xenomorph-like capabilities; amazing strength and agility, serious mutations, and an urge to kill, almost a rage. It seems to alter things genetically, evolving them into weapons. This likely had a huge part of making the Xenomorphs what they are. I don't think the confusion between the 2 black liquids was intentional, and had they made the distinction clearer, it would likely have added more consistency to what we saw on screen, and a bit more method to the madness of what the engineers seem to plan. It is easy to spot, but if it were missed, like it seems to have been by many, it could create unnecessary plot confusion.

The pacing is strange. I wouldn't say it is bad, just weird. Not what the audience is conditioned to enjoy or expect. To be fair, I wouldn't call alien or Blade Runner traditionally-paced movies, they are both a bit strange, and didn't play by many of the established conventions, and this is part of what made them great, but perhaps harder to watch. I felt Blade Runner was much better second time round, and so was prometheus. However, I still feel there is too much build up for an overall disappointingly impact-free third act. It is easy to miss out of things in this movie, as Ridley himself put it, "Its all about everything". Every moment in this movie serves a higher purpose than its face value, and I can definitely see that in my second viewing. What doesn't happen on screen is arguably more important than what does. You can't be expected to make the connection first time through, and in some cases, the connections are just speculation. It creates a new question faster than the audience has a chance to ponder the last one, and these loose ends can easily be perceived as plot-holes, when that is not necessarily the case.

I think the questions it poses are what make the movie, not the characters (of which there are few of value). Not just the question of what is going on second by second, or the motivations of characters, but the questions of creationism, religion and morality. I feel perhaps it was a bit cheap for them to release a movie deliberately peppered with unanswered questions that are open to debate and discussion. Lost had that gimmick, but unlike Lost, it is very apparent that these questions are carefully placed. It is evident that Ridley thought hard about each question that may be asked, and many of the possible answers. I would rather admire Prometheus for this, than criticise it for being pretentious. Unfortunately, the basic level of entertainment the movie provides then suffers from the focus on the higher level plot.

The characters are pretty flat, at least on first viewing, and still nothing special on the second. However, I liked Captain Janek a whole lot, and I am sure there is a lot more going on with him than meets the eye, but I'd rather not speculate on why, it gets complicated. I also thought David was great, though his illogical habit of touching things he shouldn't baffled me at first, it was justified by the end. I also liked Weyland's daughter, Vickers, as it is clear Weyland wanted a son, perhaps as an heir to the empire he built. She seems jealous of Weyland's affection for David, which is why she tends go out of her way to be a lot like him (similar clothes, uptight, cold). That said, Elizabeth Shaw was pretty uninteresting, and her lines feel like they were written by someone else entirely. The writing is far from perfect, but her lines just sucked. Her boyfriend, Halloway, was also just plain boring. This is my main problem with the movie, the two characters I am meant to relate to are both just cardboard cutouts. The geologist was just the mean-guy stereotype, as mentioned already, and he died suitably. His friend, the biologist, was just inconsistent. One minute he is Shaggy from Scooby Doo, scared to go anywhere near any signs of alien life, the next, he is poking an alien penis-snake in the face. His death was suitably grim too.

There are also many questions that can't possible be accurately speculated on by the audience. What is the formula to make the Xenomorphs? what happened differently on LV-426 to make them so different from what we see here? Perhaps these were an earlier prototype? We will likely never know, just like we will likely never know the story of what happens to Shaw afterwards (I hope anyway, that would be a dumb sequel). All I know is that the face-value movie is nothing special, but beneath it is a goldmine, for those willing to look. The fact that it was written this way could be argued as being pretentious, but I feel that makes it refreshing and appealing. I feel that the mistakes in the movie, such as uninteresting characters, could have been easily rectified, but Scott's focus was obviously on the higher-level mystery here. This harms the film significantly, stopping it from being truly great. However, I admire and applaud it for what it dared to do, and I feel it was mostly successful. In an industry so full of summer-blockbuster movies too afraid to ask questions for fear of alienating the audience, or leave story threads hanging loose for speculation, I argue this is good something a movie worth noting. Not as a movie that sits in the inevitable shadow of Alien, but as a film with a very different purpose that succeeds on its own merits, but fails where it tries to disguise itself as something resembling Alien. You can still feel free to disagree, of course, but this is my strong opinion that I am sticking by, and I hope I have made the appeal of this movie clear.

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Woah, I bet Richard is going to change his mind for sure. I'll bookmark this and read it after I watch the movie.

Post by richford140 (1 posts) See mini bio

First gaz... thanks for taking the time to do that! It read very well (as I expected it would ;-)... but ... the reason I didnt explain too much about my issues with the movie is that I have so many I didn't know where to even start...

Here goes...

For me, it began badly.

The engineer at the beginning drinks the black mutagen and starts to dissolve before falling into the sea-DNA does it's thing and 'hey-pesto' life begins.

Mmmm... this means that this would have been around the 600-million years ago- we know this because of well... the rocks. Don't forget we went from single cells; multi-cells; simple animals; invertebrates; arthropods; fish; amphibs; reptiles; dinos; mammals; humans.

So... this means that they engineered ALL life on the Earth in the hope that 600- million years in the future humans would appear? Chaos theory tells us this is completely improbable... too many things could have changed to be different... if the big one hadn't caused the KT event- we would most likely be dinosaurs... we are obviously products of evolution...not engineering-too many things wrong with us.

Yeah...I know it's a movie... but it's a sci-fi movie... science being the operative word. Bad science makes bad sci-fi movies.

Not very good at genetic engineering they are... as Yoda might say.

Anyway... the engineers managed to implant (somehow) in the minds of a few people here and there their location? An accurate location? Obviously on the other side of the galaxy? I know this because it takes them years to get there at FTL speeds... inviting humans to go there for what purpose exactly?

Also... how did they know to invite them there?

It was 600-million years ago!!! The planet that they waited on would have been what? Populated? not? heh... Not even there I suspect...

Anyway... they get there and it goes wrong... not a scary film either... ickky ...not scary...

So the engineers wore helmets that made them look like elephant type creatures we see in Alien?

Ok... I may buy that EXCEPT we have already seen them in Alien... and that was NOT a helmet- it's his head- eye sockets etc...

I get all of the hints that the xenomorphs were evolved etc... BUT the Alien movie was set in 2087 Promethus in 2093 not much time for an evolutionary process of a species- even a genetically advanced one like the xenomorphs... let alone them speading to different worlds.

The Xenomorphs

Xenomorphs-are predators with an advanced and flexible parasitic reproductive cycle. I get they may be weapons...but...unless I got the first movie wrong- they turned on the engineers. Again more evidence of their crapness as engineers. Not good weapons. Weapons would NOT be able to attack them yes? Mmm...

Characters

Flat and uninteresting- a waste of good acting talent.

The replicant is interesting... he is NOT 3-laws is he? He would not be allowed to do the things he does... his brain would have shut down... heh... He would not be able to ignore commands!

(he was surpised at the ship dropping out of warp and arriving at the planet too... what? He can't count??? He don't know the time?)

Noomi... her character is mind numbingly stupid-for a scientist.(see above for explanations).

The capt was ok... but he had such a small exposure I couldnt be bothered.

I was bored with the rest. I can't even remember who they are...

*****

Overall... poor.

I know I have a prejudice-any stories that involve aliens that suddenly make humans ultra important -they just turn me off...because we are NOT important.

The main attraction of the Alien franchise are the under currents:

the Xenomorphs are an alien species that are fantastically advanced, biologically...and only see humans as a host...they are pure and even to be admired- (Ripley-'you know Burke, I don't know which species is worse? You don't see them fucking each over for a god-damn percentage!) the humans are portrayed as flawed and evil or pure and selfless...there is no moral ambiguity in the Alien universe.

The 'space Jockey' was an enigma...who were they? Did they find the xenomorphs and were massacred by them? Are they connected to them?

For me... this has ruined the who franchise in the same way AVP did.

Ridley is a tinker for well... tinkering. Look at Blade runner... how many versions are there?

How many versions of Lawrence of Arabia are there? Or Jaws?

The change of focus is my big bug bear and that as just turned me off completely... you know it's my big problem with Star Trek too (I like it...but its crap) humans were once the newcomers to the federation... in the later series- we FOUNDED IT?!?!? WTF!!!?!

Anyway... that's not the whole list but I need to go and buy a new toilet seat now...

;-)

Post by Tylea002 (474 posts) See mini bio

The biggest tragedy about this film is how much debate it's created. We're giving it far too much credit simply by having these huge discussions. There's nothing in the actual film that warrants it, unlike the original Alien.

Post by gangly (1,273 posts) See mini bio

@RadioactiveGazz: @richford140: I hesitate to even post here, because I love this huge conversation you guys are having. ;) Well written arguments, both!

Although, I definitely fall on rich's side. What you say, Gaz...

I think the questions it poses are what make the movie, not the characters (of which there are few of value). Not just the question of what is going on second by second, or the motivations of characters, but the questions of creationism, religion and morality.

...was probably my biggest overall problem with the flick. Those shoehorned-in concepts added nothing to the story or the characters, and really just took time away from other lacking things that could have been better fleshed out themselves. Ridley throws some ideas out there; what happens after we die, why do we believe certain things, but they're never addressed. Not even by the characters themselves! It's more like reading essay titles rather than reading an essay itself. And you're reading that while trying to watch an okay action movie at the same time. It just doesn't fit.

Also, Rich, the point you bring up about the one Engineer creating specifically humans after hundreds of millions of years of evolution really bugged me too. I'm usually willing to let those things go. Especially when a movie is more thriller than hard sci-fy. But that method of intentional creation is just too absurd to dismiss. I guess they 'engineered' earth's ice ages too? ;)

Post by RadioactiveGazz (15 posts) See mini bio

I'll cover this as I go. Though I already did this once, but apparent cmd-z on web browsing isn't undo, it just deletes everything instead. So, retype take 2. It might seema bit rushed because of this. What is in bold is my text.

First gaz... thanks for taking the time to do that! It read very well (as I expected it would ;-)... but ... the reason I didnt explain too much about my issues with the movie is that I have so many I didn't know where to even start...

Here goes...

For me, it began badly.

The engineer at the beginning drinks the black mutagen and starts to dissolve before falling into the sea-DNA does it's thing and 'hey-pesto' life begins.

Mmmm... this means that this would have been around the 600-million years ago- we know this because of well... the rocks. Don't forget we went from single cells; multi-cells; simple animals; invertebrates; arthropods; fish; amphibs; reptiles; dinos; mammals; humans.

So... this means that they engineered ALL life on the Earth in the hope that 600- million years in the future humans would appear? Chaos theory tells us this is completely improbable... too many things could have changed to be different... if the big one hadn't caused the KT event- we would most likely be dinosaurs... we are obviously products of evolution...not engineering-too many things wrong with us.

I do have an almost useless comeback to this, but it wouldn’t matter even if I was right, you’d likely be able to explain it with some of your vast evolutionary knowledge, something I can’t argue back to because I am not that well read. I’ll throw this out there anyway. Yes, we see him creating the basis for all life right then and there in the first scene. However, the engineers didn’t stop there. As we saw in the caves, there is evidence of them checking in on us every few thousand years or more. If they are capable of creating it, why would they not then tinker with it as it evolves to make it how they want to. This should perhaps have been addressed, since leaving it to speculation just paints it as a plot-hole, and is too much suspension of disbelief to ask the audience to give. It is even worse that this is the very first scene, anyone who had your reaction to this opening scene would likely not be very forgiving on what was to come from the movie.

Yeah...I know it's a movie... but it's a sci-fi movie... science being the operative word. Bad science makes bad sci-fi movies.

Not very good at genetic engineering they are... as Yoda might say.

Anyway... the engineers managed to implant (somehow) in the minds of a few people here and there their location? An accurate location? Obviously on the other side of the galaxy? I know this because it takes them years to get there at FTL speeds... inviting humans to go there for what purpose exactly?

The “invitation” is just what Shaw chose to believe (a running theme of the movie). It is also speculated in the movie that it could have just as easily been a warning. “Hey guys, don’t go over here. Look, we’ll draw you a map on the wall. We’ll be back in a bit to make sure you haven’t mastered space travel or become better than us. If you do, we’ll kill you”. Of course, whatever they are saying is lost in translation. I find it interesting that they are kinda crappy. They are a species above us, yet they are morally quite terrible, and just as accident-prone as us. They are possibly even arrogant for thinking they could control their new weapon.

Also... how did they know to invite them there?

It was 600-million years ago!!! The planet that they waited on would have been what? Populated? not? heh... Not even there I suspect...

Well the warning they gave were all during them checking in on us, so the map to that planet is only as old as humans are. It likely wouldn’t be populated, since they seem to be responsible for possibly all life in the galaxy, and they keep a close eye. But then the guys in charge of keeping an eye on that shit drop their weapon, and they are gone for a good 2,000 years. I have even seen theories that Jesus could come into it, and that he was sent to check in on us, and we just crucified him, so they are pissed at us for that, but I dislike this theory, I prefer to believe they were just scared of us being better, so looked to wipe us out before we became a problem.

Anyway... they get there and it goes wrong... not a scary film either... ickky ...not scary...

So the engineers wore helmets that made them look like elephant type creatures we see in Alien?

Ok... I may buy that EXCEPT we have already seen them in Alien... and that was NOT a helmet- it's his head- eye sockets etc...

This was weird, as they could have easily made the same movie without making them big white guys in suits. However, it just might be the fashion to dress up like variations of elephant men. This is a species that turns on their computers by playing flutes.

I get all of the hints that the xenomorphs were evolved etc... BUT the Alien movie was set in 2087 Promethus in 2093 not much time for an evolutionary process of a species- even a genetically advanced one like the xenomorphs... let alone them speading to different worlds.

The Xenomorphs

Alien was set in 2179. Even so, your point remains kind valid, that is not at all long enough for evolution to occur. However, I have speculated about the black goo before. This seems to be what makes them what they are, dangerous and efficient. It is genetic steroids, instant badass juice. It could been engineered this way to cause mutations over time, the longer things are exposed to it. I seem to remember the egg room in Alien being pretty damn wet, but I could be remembering wrong. It was also hinted it had been there a while. If a day could turn a worm into a biologist-destroying penis monster, I is not much of a leap for the Xenomorphs to be the product of whatever genes were in those vases.

Xenomorphs-are predators with an advanced and flexible parasitic reproductive cycle. I get they may be weapons...but...unless I got the first movie wrong- they turned on the engineers. Again more evidence of their crapness as engineers. Not good weapons. Weapons would NOT be able to attack them yes? Mmm...

I am not sure what is canon and what is not, but I am not even sure Ridley is using Aliens as canon for this movie, so the alien queen business could arguably be discarded.

Characters

Flat and uninteresting- a waste of good acting talent.

The replicant is interesting... he is NOT 3-laws is he? He would not be allowed to do the things he does... his brain would have shut down... heh... He would not be able to ignore commands!

(he was surpised at the ship dropping out of warp and arriving at the planet too... what? He can't count??? He don't know the time?)

Now that is one hell of a nitpick right there. All your other points are much more relevant, however. I liked Michael Fassbender a whole lot in this. Everyone else was fodder.

Noomi... her character is mind numbingly stupid-for a scientist.(see above for explanations).

The capt was ok... but he had such a small exposure I couldnt be bothered.

I think he had plenty enough, especially seeing it a second time. He needed more screen time, simply on the basis that he is played by Idris Elba, and taking a backseat to the rest of the cookie-cutter characters was just plain wrong.

I was bored with the rest. I can't even remember who they are...

Total agreement here.

*****

Overall... poor.

Far less agreement here.

I know I have a prejudice-any stories that involve aliens that suddenly make humans ultra important -they just turn me off...because we are NOT important.

As I said, the movie itself says that. There is nothing special about our creation. They only thing that makes us special is that we are the only other life around that could give the engineers a run for their money. I find this movie was quite cynical about the importance of our existence, and indeed even the engineers existence. Sure, earth was at stake, but it was an interesting enough spin to keep me happy with it.

The main attraction of the Alien franchise are the under currents:

the Xenomorphs are an alien species that are fantastically advanced, biologically...and only see humans as a host...they are pure and even to be admired- (Ripley-'you know Burke, I don't know which species is worse? You don't see them fucking each over for a god-damn percentage!) the humans are portrayed as flawed and evil or pure and selfless...there is no moral ambiguity in the Alien universe.

I don’t see how moral ambiguity is a bad thing. It is unfair to put this movie against alien, because Alien is a masterpiece. They seem like very similar films at first, but have extremely different purposes. This film disguises itself as that kind of movie, and thus exposes itself to direct comparisons between alien and Prometheus’ less-than stellar aspects. Where the quality of this movie stands is the questions. I don’t even want them answered, I prefer to be able to believe what I want to about many of the events of this movie, and I feel I have most the plot-holes covered with my explanation. Most of the enjoyment of this movie has been analysing it to hell, and seeing what others have to say about it. This film is a movie that is in the universe of Alien and connects to Alien, but that doesn’t mean it has to be tonally identical. It is trying to achieve something different.

The 'space Jockey' was an enigma...who were they? Did they find the xenomorphs and were massacred by them? Are they connected to them?

This is a problem with the movie’s existence, the basis of the movie itself was based on answering questions perhaps more fun left unanswered. However, I feel it justifies its existence, I just wish it be a little more clear and better written, with likable characters at the forefront.

For me... this has ruined the who franchise in the same way AVP did.

Ridley is a tinker for well... tinkering. Look at Blade runner... how many versions are there?

How many versions of Lawrence of Arabia are there? Or Jaws?

Sfter watching The Final Cut of Blade Runner, it has been said each version was a result of Ridley trying to get what he wanted, and the studios poking their noses in. The Final Cut was how he intended it to be, and that was the first opportunity he had to cut it that way, since so much footage was lost in warehouses. Don’t expect a director’s cut of Prometheus, he already says it is as he intended, though maybe some deleted scenes will be included as bonus features. If Ridley had his way, there would have been one version of Blade Runner.

The change of focus is my big bug bear and that as just turned me off completely... you know it's my big problem with Star Trek too (I like it...but its crap) humans were once the newcomers to the federation... in the later series- we FOUNDED IT?!?!? WTF!!!?!

I find Prometheus fine. Change of focus isn’t a big deal when the movie is made to be so different anyway, an offshoot rather than a prequel. The events of Prometheus don’t really negate anything that happened in Alien very strongly. There may be a problem with the alien queen stuff in the sequel, but we just don’t know what Ridley Scott is taking as “canon”.

Anyway... that's not the whole list but I need to go and buy a new toilet seat now...

Hope you get round to explaining the rest at some point.

;-)

:-)

Post by RadioactiveGazz (15 posts) See mini bio

@gangly: I disagree, but see where you are coming from.In my opinion, the concepts are the focus, and the characters, pacing and dialogue were the parts they shoehorned around it. I also like the way it is. You likened it to reading essay titles. I'd say it is more like reading essay titles and a series of bullet points, and the essay produces itself the more you think about it. It isn't done perfect, and all other aspects of the film suffer in sacrifice of it, but as I have said, I applaud it for trying what it did, and I would say what it did was an overall success. He was playing around with a srange style of film making that creates more questions than answers, which is not really an established kind of movie, it is a bit of an experiement in that regard. Other movies have done this too, such as 2001 Space Odyssey, which is a much better film, and a little known movie called Kill List. Kill list went down better with fans, I think this is because it was not resting on its connection to a cinematic classic, it wasn't hyped up, it was just a new and original pleasant surprise. Prometheus, however, has all expectations working heavily against it trying what it did, and so it comes under heavier fire for it. I am surprised it has gotten as many fans as it has.

Post by femiboy34 (183 posts) See mini bio

I agree. Just... yes, everything so 1,000,000,000% correct. But the movie still held back to much to enjoy in the theatres.

Post by GetEveryone (42 posts) See mini bio

@Tylea002 said:

The biggest tragedy about this film is how much debate it's created. We're giving it far too much credit simply by having these huge discussions. There's nothing in the actual film that warrants it, unlike the original Alien.

The original Alien was a glorified haunted house.

A stellar movie, no doubt, but it warrants virtually no discussion.

(Enter: femininity arguments and their ilk).

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