Shadows of Disappointment: What happened?

Topic started by MasterPr0phet on March 17, 2012. Last post by MasterPr0phet 1 year, 1 month ago.
Post by MasterPr0phet (87 posts) See mini bio

Disappointment indeed, what the hell Happened Tim Burton? About a year and a half ago, when you and Depp finally announced that you would be taking on Dark Shadows was confident the franchise (if you can call it that) was in good hands. Here are two dude's who have made many movies together, and for the most part one of their team ups have been fantastic (Alice in Wonderland was questionable at times). The fact that they both have gone on record stating that they were fans of the 1966-1971 series made me feel an even bigger sense of confidence towards this adaptation.

With the first few pictures being released last fall, I was swinging on the hope chains in wonder: everything looked fantastic. Depp as Barnabas Collins, a stellar cast, even Helena Bonham Carter looked her part as Dr. Julia Hoffman. My anticipation grew. But then, after those pictures were released, we had almost four months of hearing nothing about this movie, besides an occasional new photo. My hope didn't diminish though, as I just would say to myself "the trailer will come in time". Then finally, I heard that they were premiering the trailer on Ellen? Yeah, a bit odd but whatever. And then the unholy trailer was released, and literally all dreams of this movie went down the toilet in that two minute trailer.

Before we even get to the shocking revelation that somehow, Burton turned this into a comedy, we already have the story faults of Barnabas being entombed on a beach. Yeah, that never happened (he was entombed in his original mansion), so I'm confused as to why that was changed. However, a small gripe, so whatever right? Then we get to the notion that, no, this isn't going to be the dark and violent vampire film based on the gothic soap opera that I wanted and or expected. Nope, instead Burton has decided to turn this into a dark comedy of sorts. Let's see? Barnabas Collins never once revealed to anyone in his family (in 1960's/70's) that he was a vampire. But the first thing we see Depp's Barnabas doing is just that. Then, he's taking over the family business, running into the witch (Angelique) who cursed him, and getting some vampire/witch boning on. You know, I like Johnny Depp as much as the next person, but personally I'm kind of tired of the slapstick, “Jack Sparrowish” Depp we've seen in the last decade. With “Dark Shadows”, Depp seems to have turned that into just this.

Now, this is just one fan's reaction to the trailer, and I realize I'm taking quite a dump on this, but I felt the need that I have to. I know the general public will see this movie and not even care about what it's previously based on, or even have the desire to watch the original show. And besides, in terms of outdated television, “Dark Shadows” ranks pretty high up there at this point. Still, it's just a shame to see something I love so much turned into this kind of trash.

Overall, it's just a shame. A shame that such a wonderful property and a movie that Depp and Burton have wanted to make for a decade has turned into what they think can be the “Beetlejuice” of this generation. I will instead, hang on to my VHS copy of “House of Dark Shadows”, as it is to me the most complete version of the Barnabas Collins story. Yes, I will still go and see “Dark Shadows”, and most likely I will cringe at every minute of it, but I can't help but walk away feeling this will be the biggest disappointment of 2012.

Post by theodacourt (265 posts) See mini bio

I don't have any knowledge about the property and I'm a fan of Tim Burton/Johnny Depp although the last few films have been quite average. The trailer was the first real thing I've seen of it and I though it looked fantastic until they got to the comedy, fish out of water bit. Then I hated it.

So I guess you could say I don't care what they do to the franchise, but I'm disappointed by what they've done anyway as fans of them generally. I wouldn't say it's going to be the biggest disappointment because I wasn't expecting them to arrest the steady decline in quality. I was mostly disappointed by how well the trailer started and how it threw it away. I'm sure the film will be mediocre at least though so who knows.

Post by MasterPr0phet (87 posts) See mini bio

They did throw the opportunity for greatness away pretty far here.

Post by gangly (1,273 posts) See mini bio

@MasterPr0phet: Jepp as Edward Scissorhands and as Ed Wood are honestly two of my all time favorite performances, period. But it's been sharply downhill from there. He was a passable Ichabod Crane, but that character was ultimately just a bland dude. Willy Wonka, Victor Van Dort, Sweeney Todd, and the Mad Hatter were all painfully bad. He basically plays the exact same character now. The neurotic, slightly fem, but also potentially violent outsider. He's stuck like a fucking record.

And listen, I'm an animator, and Burton's films were the primary thing that led me to where I am today. But the truth is the dude's just lost his spark.

So, next time a Burton flick that you wanna get pumped over has Jepp in it, forget that shit. Fool me once...

Post by MasterPr0phet (87 posts) See mini bio

I'd argue that Sweeney Todd was one of the best films of the last decade.

Post by gangly (1,273 posts) See mini bio

@MasterPr0phet: Yikes! Umm... let's just agree to disagree on that one. I still think my greater point at least still rings true.

Post by theodacourt (265 posts) See mini bio

@MasterPr0phet said:

I'd argue that Sweeney Todd was one of the best films of the last decade.

I'd agree that it's definitely a good film but maybe not one of the best of a decade. Sweeney Todd is another character that is typical Johnny Depp, but if the Johnny Depp character fits the film then what does it matter?

I even think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is enjoyable in it's own quirky way, it just doesn't measure up to old Burton/Depp and definitely not against the masterpiece original.

Post by TentPole (105 posts) See mini bio

@MasterPr0phet said:

I'd argue that Sweeney Todd was one of the best films of the last decade.

I agree with this.

Post by MasterPr0phet (87 posts) See mini bio

Tim Burton's collabs with Johnny Depp have been hit or miss, with most going in a favorable direction. The most recent disappointment was "Alice in Wonderland", however I'm under the impression however bad a movie might be, Johnny Depp always puts out a worthwhile and great performance.

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