Starz Ends Relationship With Netflix

Topic started by Rorie on Sept. 1, 2011. Last post by Batty 1 year, 8 months ago.
Post by Rorie (3,216 posts) See mini bio
Catch it sometime in the next six months!
Catch it sometime in the next six months!

Not much else to say about this other than the headline; Starz has decided not to renew its streaming partnership with Netflix after their current contract ends in February. That's around 1,000 movies that are going to be knocked off the service; it might be small percentage-wise, but it's a hefty part of their content if you're interested in relatively new releases, to the point where Starz has its own button on the Netflix site's UI. For one thing, that covers a lot of Disney/Pixar and Warner Bros. films that are available on Netflix, as well as stuff like...well, Old Dogs. Here's what Starz is saying:

Starz Entertainment has ended contract renewal negotiations with Netflix. When the agreement expires on February 28, 2012, Starz will cease to distribute its content on the Netflix streaming platform. This decision is a result of our strategy to protect the premium nature of our brand by preserving the appropriate pricing and packaging of our exclusive and highly valuable content. With our current studio rights and growing original programming presence, the network is in an excellent position to evaluate new opportunities and expand its overall business.

Predictably enough, Reed Hastings, Netflix's CEO, is playing a bit of damage control:

While we regret their decision to let our agreement lapse next February, we are grateful for the early notice of their decision, which will give us time to license other content before Starz expires.
While Starz was a huge part of viewing on Netflix several years ago because it was some of the only mainstream content Netflix offered, over the years Netflix has spent more and more licensing great TV shows from all four broadcast networks and many cable networks, and we have licensed 1st run movies from Relativity, MGM, Paramount, Lionsgate and others. Because we’ve licensed so much other great content, Starz content is now down to about 8% of domestic Netflix subscribers’ viewing. As we add even more content in Q4, we expect Starz content to naturally drift down to 5-6% of domestic viewing in Q1. We are confident we can take the money we had earmarked for Starz renewal next year, and spend it with other content providers to maintain or even improve the Netflix experience.

So that's nice. It's worth noting, though, that Netflix has said that television shows already account for over half its domestic streaming traffic; since the Starz deal largely covers movies, that 8% of total viewing could potentially be twice as large or more if viewed in the context of overall film streaming on the service. That said, the Starz licensing was relatively cheap when the deal was announced back in 2008; now that Netflix has proven that there's a large market for its services, it's likely that Starz wanted a much bigger piece of the action, something akin to Epix' five-year, billion-dollar deal that was reached last year.

Alas, it's not to be. This is a big deal for Netflix, no matter what Hastings says; Disney and Warner Bros. are consistently in the top three studios in terms of grosses each year, so losing those popular films doesn't speak well for the streaming service in an era when they're hiking prices.

Post by Sparklykiss (264 posts) See mini bio

Such shit.

It also sucked that even if you were wanting to watch a Starz movie in an Xbox party, it was forbidden. They had to have special labels for everything, drove me nuts and messed up some of the movie nights I would plan. It's great to know that other, better services will be available soon. (I'm going to miss all that Disney, though. D: )

Post by ReyGitano (48 posts) See mini bio

As far as I'm concerned, good. No more, "Surprise! This isn't in widescreen because it's from Starz"!

Post by litrock (560 posts) See mini bio

The important thing to note here is that for anyone who cares about the presentation, the Starz movies are largely terrible. Bad transfers, often only available in fullscreen, which almost no HD options. I would rather not watch a movie than watch a version worse than I could find on youtube.

Good riddance, Starz. I, for one, will not miss your shit.

Post by drscott (99 posts) See mini bio
I can't believe how much hey were being paid in the firs place.
Post by PLWolf (77 posts) See mini bio

Damn! No Spartacus next year! :(

Oh well, they're right in that I mostly watch TV Shows from other channels. Still a bummer, though.

Post by Fragonard (37 posts) See mini bio

I guess I will have to acquire the new season of Spartacus by "other" means then.

Post by FinalDasa (2,775 posts) See mini bio
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Bummer.

Post by Derangel (66 posts) See mini bio

I avoid all Starz Play titles on Netflix already. Every single one of them that I have watched might as well have been on a VHS.

Post by OldGuy (130 posts) See mini bio

I'm with the others... if they didn't pan/scan their movies I'd care. But, well, I don't care.

Post by mbkish (257 posts) See mini bio

@Sparklykiss said:

Such shit.

It also sucked that even if you were wanting to watch a Starz movie in an Xbox party, it was forbidden. They had to have special labels for everything, drove me nuts and messed up some of the movie nights I would plan. It's great to know that other, better services will be available soon. (I'm going to miss all that Disney, though. D: )

Yep, exactly.

Post by Flap_jackson (883 posts) See mini bio
This sucks SO hard...
Post by VioletEyedDragon (1,816 posts) See mini bio
uh-oh.  these corporate battles could really hurt us viewers abilities to see good movies 
i dont have netflix though so it isnt directly affecting me...yet.  
Post by JEC03 (96 posts) See mini bio
The downward spiral of Netflix continues they need some good streaming competition hope Redbox comes out with there streaming service  they suppose to this year not sure if that is still going to happen. The CEO of Netflix is quite the douchebag I really wish there was a service as user friendly as Valve/steam is to gaming damn I wish they do streaming that would rock.
Post by Lurkero (87 posts) See mini bio
@JEC03
I don't think it's just a Netflix issue. I think this is still a Netflix vs Comcast vs DirecTV, etc. thing.
 
The market for viewing movies and TV is still in a balance between watching at the source (TV & theater), DVD, and streaming. While streaming is becoming more relevant, Comcast and DirecTV are trying harder to force companies to put them before streaming. I would say the the Fox Network 8 day delay and pay wall is evidence. Warner Bros has also done the same with Cartoon Network, and a few other channels I cannot recall followed.
 
Of course, I don't know how much Starz was asking and how much Netflix was offering. Either side could have been trying to get more than they deserved based on current market conditions.
Post by UnbreakableVow (44 posts) See mini bio

Echoing others, Starz Play titles were terrible quality anyways, and I for one won't miss them. 
 
Good riddance, bad rubbish, etc.
Post by drscott (99 posts) See mini bio
@Fragonard said:

I guess I will have to acquire the new season of Spartacus by "other" means then.

Because if you can't get yourself to go buy it or subscribe to the channel that has it, go steal it right?
Post by Dallas_Raines (129 posts) See mini bio

I refused to watch any Starz Play(outside of Party Down) because the picture quality was such dogshit.

Post by Jesus (315 posts) See mini bio

@Dallas_Raines said:

I refused to watch any Starz Play(outside of Party Down) because the picture quality was such dogshit.

Too true.

Post by Daveyo520 (87 posts) See mini bio
The media industry just hates making money and wants pirates to exist it seems. 
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