I guess it's a James Cameron kind of day.
While discussing and doing press for Avatar 2, producer John Landau admitted that it is now likely the film will miss it's December 2014 release day. He blames it on the fact that they want to take the time to make it "right" which is probably really code for James Cameron is too busy exploring the bottom of the ocean to actually work on Avatar 2.
In all reality, I suspect that it might be at least in part due to the fact that it is hard to blow people's minds and change cinema more than once in 5 years. Or maybe the effects are just so hard, that they are all sitting around looking at each other asking "what the fuck are we thinking trying to do this again?" There is part of me that is really excited for it, and is looking forward to it whenever it's released, and part of me that hopes it's really worth the wait.
Well it did take Cameron seven years to make a Terminator sequel...
@RockinKemosabe: Terminator was remarkable, Avatar... was not.
James "Poseidon" Cameron!
@Napalm said:
I wouldn't call the most financially successful movie of all time unremarkable, bub.
@RockinKemosabe: There's arguably a very good reason for that. Same could be said about Avatar. Could you imagine T2 with the T-1000 before special effects like that?
@Sandor said:
I'm not comparing either franchise to one another, I'm only stating that this isn't the first time Camerson took a long time to make a sequel.
Weep? I'll happily never have to look at another blue cat thing.
Not surprised. I really don't want a Avatar 2. It told its story well enough and the effects were great but I don't feel the need to go back to the land of tall blue cat people.
Now what if Cameron directed a remake of The Poseidon Adventure?
@Sandor said:
In that case, we can put Titanic and Twlight back on the table.
I'd prefer it if the film was delayed until I had passed on from this world.
I'm not weeping since Avatar was already done better in Dances with Wolves, Pocahantas, Fern Gully, etc...
@Sandor said:
the box office preformance was remarkable, but the movie was not. aside from the visuals. but visuals alone do not make a good movie.
i like that it is delayed. i'd prefer if it was cancelled.
@Napalm said:
Yes, I would call both of those movies remarkable. Remarkable for all the wrong reasons, yes, but remarkable none the less.
@Sandor said:
If I facepalm'd any harder, I'd end up putting my hand through my fucking skull.
@Napalm said:
Why would you put Twilight in that conversation? It is not even in the same realm of financial success as Titanic or Avatar. There's a couple of movies per year that make the money that Twilight movies make. Titanic and Avatar have never been done except for, well, Titanic and Avatar if you don't include classic films adjusted for inflation. What I'm saying is that unlike the Twilight films, Titanic and Avatar are both of at least of interest for their massive success alone, which the Twilight films are not. I'm not saying that you have to be interested or anything, however.
@Brendan said:
Those movies make a bucketload of money by pandering to the lowest common denominator. Avatar is all special effects and show. Twilight is fake ultra-emotion and nothing else. Just because Twilight didn't break a billion doesn't change facts. I suggest you listen to Ryan Davis' mini-rany about Avatar on the Giant Bombcast. Simply put, "Avatar just wins by brute force of money."
Stop trying to turn the conversation into something it isn't. How much money a movie makes isn't indicative of its quality, and Avatar is the absolute definitive proof of that. Plain and simple.
I hope he gets to do a full trilogy, and I hope he films the next two movies at 48 frames per second, as he said he would.
I think this is great news! I'd like to delay it as long as possible, in fact.
@Napalm said:
I'm not making a qualitative judgement of the film Avatar, or talking about even one minute of the content inside the film. I'm saying that people are interested in the movie simply because of it's cultural relevance as one of the most successful movies of all time. You are trying to twist my words into things I did not actually say. I have little interest in the Call of Duty Video games, but it's always interesting to what they're made of every year simply because of their gigantic footprint upon the gaming industry.
Do you understand what I am saying now?
@Brendan said:
Well, I don't really agree because it's such a superfluous thing to be interested in. Yes, Avatar making over a billion corporate dirtbags is of some interest, but only by the sheer large numbers it puts on the scoreboard, and since I'm not into sports and stadium cheesedogs, doesn't mean anything to me, personally.