Joss Whedon's at SXSW to do some press for Cabin In The Woods, the upcoming horror film that he wrote and produced alongside Drew Goddard. That film has been on the shelf for over two years now, but now that Chris Hemsworth is starring in Thor and another summer movie this year, it makes sense for it to finally see a release. So, of course, whenever he sits down with journalists, all they want to do is talk about The Avengers instead of the movies he's there to talk about. Surprisingly, in what was perhaps an unguarded moment, Whedon confirmed that the alien invaders in the film won't be either the Skrull or the Kree, the two races that had been considered the most likely candidates to invade Earth.
Those two aliens are Marvel mainstays and have enormous backstories. They have a big life of their own that just could not be contained in a film where I already had seven movie stars.
That's not necessarily a huge revelation, since Kevin Feige had, I believe, long-ago hinted that the Skrull weren't in the film, but it still leaves open the door for interpretation as to who, precisely, are going to be the bad guys in the Avengers movie. Since Loki re-appears, it'd make sense for the villains to be some kind of mythological race, one could suppose, but then his powers of manipulation are such that it could be basically anyone.
The Avengers doesn't really look like it's going to be focusing on the external threat, though; it would appear more likely that it'll be the team-building episode of what I'm sure Marvel wants to be a trilogy. Still, it'll be interesting to find out precisely what the Avengers are actually fighting in the film. We'll know in May, at the latest.
It's either Frost Giants or The Badoon
Crazed comic nerds.
Does anyone else think that it's oddly manipulative and just plain dumb that the main antagonists of this flick HAVEN'T been revealed? A whole ton of fanboys are already cumming over this flick, and other folks will most likely see it too because the characters have been mostly well recieved and people like superhero movies still. So WHY are they making this a big secret?
If we didn't know that Red Skull, Obadiah Stane, Loki, Whiplash, etc. were the various villains in their respective flicks, would more people be likely to go see them? Fuck no. Knowing a bit of what happens in a movie is what garners interest. So not knowing something means you're just loosing out on a possible reason for a person to want to buy a ticket.
All of this artificial "mystery" about The Avengers is only reinforcing my assumptions that the big reveal is just a force of completely interchangeable whatevers who will seem all tough in the second act and then be blandly overcome when the heroes learn to work together blah blah blah...
I'm really done with comic books films. i think dark knight rises will be the last one I pay to see for a long time
@DeviTiffany said:
We saw them in Thor and they don't look a thing like from what we've seen of the aliens so far in The Avengers.
I think the creatures will be Asgardian monsters of some kind, granted they look a little robotic to be so but I can't think of who it could be.
I wonder if they are the Dark Elves of Svartalfheim. It would make sense considering the movie universe is trying to make Asgard more of a sci-fi world instead of magic based.
@LokitheNightlord: clearly your posts on this subject cannot be trusted. ;)
Isn't it the Chitauri from the Ultimate Avengers, who were pretty much just poor man's Skrulls?
It's the frost giants without a doubt.
It has to be Kronans if its not the Kree or Skrull, Kronans were the first villains Thor took down in his first appearance, they were an alien race from Saturn who used robots and had the ability for interstellar travel. maybe the allied themselves with Loki in The Avengers movie.
@gangly: Wait I sort of get what you're saying but do you seriously think people went to see Captain America just because Red Skrull was the villain in it?
@gangly:
Doubt it's going to happen, but if I'm sitting in the theater to watch the Avengers and still don't know who/what the antagonists are going to be, I'd be pleased. It's something I'd love to find out alongside the characters.
: Like I said when the last trailer came out, Avengers look likes JJ Abrams Star Trek - it sure as shit is more preoccupied with the "team building excercise" Rorie mentioned than the threat. That's fine; Star Trek was awesome. Hitting those same beats (Stark is Kirk, Cap is Spock, and Thor is...Bones, or Uhura or something) will result in a compelling movie. Which is why the trailers have been so awesome while hardly even showing any evil characters. Advertisers focus on what the core story is (unless you're advertising for John Carter, apparently) , and it is very clear that the core story is about THE AVENGERS. Not whoever's face they're going to collectively punch in. You're talking about, say, making trailers for the Incredibles focusing on Syndrome, or for Fantastic Four and focusing on Dr.Doom, when the core of those movies were the family at the center of everything.
Why are you acting like this is so one dimensional? "Good Guy VERSUS Bad Guy" is how you advertise Wrestlemania, not superhero movies. Not anymore. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man flicks, Bryan Singer's Superman and X-Men films, and Chris Nolan's Batman films have changed that. Stop focusing on it.
@JPWolf5 said:
Sounds reasonable.
I have a fairly good idea which alien race will be in The Avengers movie. They are a technocratic group of beings who not only use robotic servants but also dealt with Thor during his early years.
God, I hope Marvel trolls everyone and they're just referred as "Loki's Army".
I remember when they rumored Thanos as the villain a few months back, lol.
I'm just not gonna pay any more attention to Avengers news, I know too much already.