@obscurefan: You beat me to it.. also adding the fact that he is not sure what memories are his and which ones are his clones, it could always come back to bite him on the ass/ or make it a psychological thriller where one of his copies is killing in his name
Hard Boiled - I prefer my Action absurd and over the top
Lockout - 3/5
Eh, sure it's cliche and predictable.. but goddamn if Asshole Guy Pierce isn't a force of nature
gloat away you lucky lucky person you..
I just hope it's not limited release in Aus
@Little_Socrates said:
@Genkkaku said:
Another question is what did everyone think of the final scene with Bane.. I loves every second Tom Hardy tore up as Bane, he created a monster with very little rhyme or reason who followed Joker's chaos for the sake of chaos routine.. But in the last scene of his, Batman beats him, and Talia al Ghul reveals his true beginnings and nature, both things essentially emasculating (probably not the right word) him and tearing down everything he was and then the Catwoman bit.. I just felt like they were done with Bane at that point and didn't bother giving him a fitting end..
This is definitely the most important problem I have with TDKR. That part is kind of infuriating. Batman beating him was fine, that had to happen. But the moment that knife dug into Batman, I lost the thread. Part of the problem is that Talia's writing, once she became Talia, was kind of terrible. She didn't really get to do a whole lot there, either. I'd rather they removed that whole thread and just left Bane more of a mystery; I'm sad Nolan forgot how well that works.
I thought here slow knife speech was alright, this kinda way to tie it all back together, and Cotillard did a really good job with it but I do agree that it was a little to late to spin that thread, and her character only goes downhill from there, and since she wasn't really in it alot you don't really get that whole "holy shit!" moment. It would have been better had he introduced a character in DK or something so by this point that shatters you're concept on this character that's been an ally. And yeah knowing just giving the audience/batman enough evidence to fill in the blanks while not really revealing anything about Bane would have been perfect, the way he handled Joker and his backstory/beginnings was so much better than what he did here
@Watcherg44: I liked his voice in the final film because he sounds more insane, and enjoying his work.. if that makes sense.. But I do think that more gruff and there original direction for his voice matches his character more
Why haven't I seen either!? I say that Returns cover has me more interested so I would choose that
The Raven - 2/5
Great looking, well acted, well directed, Cusak as Poe...
Just really boring (I assume less so for a Poe fan)
The reasons why some movies have polarizing (probably not the right word) fans, like the Dichotomy between Love/Hate and how they can be the same determining factor for 2 different people..
Remakes, which ones are pointless (EG: Psycho/ Quarantine) and which ones prove themselves necessary
The disconnect between advertising for movies and the actual movies themselves
Movies that take the influences and make the homages that work (Super 8 kinda)
@Watcherg44: Personally I thought it was amazing.. I think from the opening scene the first moment he talks he comes off as imposing and a madman by just opening his mouth, justifying the voice.. I really liked it, you can hear Tom Hardy's english accent bleed through so you have this sophistication and brutality all rolled into one.. And it helps when he is trying to be imposing and then being "sympathetic" to gotham, I can also see why people would think the opposite..
That said I did have some trouble hearing him throughout including his last line, but I think we had a bad sound mix or the Projectionist set it up wrong, because I had issues with sound throughout the film (to loud then dialogue being to quiet)
@Watcherg44: Yes, I loved everything else about him and the way Tom Hardy played him, I think thats why I really disliked that bit
I dig it.. It looks like a huge departure from Snyder's style, which is a very good thing I think.. I enjoyed 300 but when he branched out after that essentially recreating his visual style it had no weight to it (and those movies were terrible).. But this looks like growth and a subtlety he never had, It also looks very unlike any Superman that's come before
@obscurefan: Now that you mention it.. Maybe it's all the low hand-held angles?
@asian_pride: He did deserve a more fitting end after not only besting Batman but physically destroying him.. I like the idea of Joseph Gordon Levitt finding the Batcave, re-enforcing the idea that Batman lives on regardless of the man under the hood.. I really hope it doesn't lead to a sequel, This movie closes it out pretty good..
@Watcherg44: Yeah but with the first fight , no matter what Batman did he just could not overcome Bane's raw power and speed.. which was foreshadowed by Alfred mentioning it and how he hasn't been Batman for a long time, that his body is frail and broken from the experience.. So the fact that he came back and overcame Bane with relative ease is a bit far removed from the monster they have created Bane to be
I think my main problem with the Bane end is that I felt that his mask is analogous to the Joker's Scar its a feature that serves a purpose and a meaning but the origin is never conveyed to the viewer.. When the Joker asks "Wanna know how I got these scars?" and precedes to recount false stories about it create his identity, He is the man with the scars but why and how, but you never need to know to enjoy that character.. and I felt the same with Bane's mask, but that moment they tell his back story and show him unmasked, humanises a character that was a monster, and takes that meaning away from him..
I felt the Robin name bit was a little cheesy, but kinda necessary for anyone who didn't realize where that was going.. Just a small quip at the idea, even though he would probably take on the mantle of batman, echoing the words of Bruce Wayne telling him that Batman is a symbol, its more than a man, its unkillable essentially..
Another question is what did everyone think of the final scene with Bane.. I loves every second Tom Hardy tore up as Bane, he created a monster with very little rhyme or reason who followed Joker's chaos for the sake of chaos routine.. But in the last scene of his, Batman beats him, and Talia al Ghul reveals his true beginnings and nature, both things essentially emasculating (probably not the right word) him and tearing down everything he was and then the Catwoman bit.. I just felt like they were done with Bane at that point and didn't bother giving him a fitting end..
Queensland, Australia
I speak (in my case anyways) specifically to Will Gluck the director of Fired Up, Easy A and Friends with Benefits.. Now I haven't seen Friends with Benefits but His other two films are two my favourite comedies and I think that he brings a certain style and flair to those movies, things that I don't think are really experimented with in comedies..
And on that note I would be really interested to see him do a serious Thriller or Horror, because I think he could pull off something really great..
Thoughts? or Directors you would like to see branch out?
@Travissty: Yeah I did enjoy some of the humor, especially that opening bit and when they were carrying the ammunition at the end.. just kind of some of the absurdity of hey he is the captain of his ship but he's also doing everything else..
I think yeah that some was great some was terrible and alot was dumb, but still kinda fun.. and Peter Berg's little cameo
@Travissty: I still kinda liked it but thought it was a little bit to dumb.. that whole ending sequence was just, seriously? where'd the rest of the crew just disappear to.. Although i couldn't stop laughing at the reloading the gun bit
I still think the action in Transformers 2 + 3 was a little more enjoyable
EDIT: There is also like a 5 minute post-credits scene for anyone interested
I was super looking forward to it as some dumb fun..
And it is extremely dumb and occasionally fun.. the leaps in logic this movie ask you to take are absurd at best..
It was okay at best
Wait you're missing A Good Year? You know that right
@saydella: In that case did you sit through all the Pirates credits and were you promptly dissapointed by the post credits scenes that followed?
