Two directors have tackled Willy Wonka, with markedly different results. This latest Remake Rematch will crown a winner, though!
Video posted by JoeyF on March 1, 2012
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is a 2005 film-adaptation from Tim Burton of the children's book by Roald Dahl, with Johnny Depp as Willy Wonka.
I don't quite get why this needed to be filmed. Was there a question involved?
Also, thank you for not coming up with a nonsensical category for Burton's version to win. It's just not a great movie.
Great ending, and obvious victor. Those songs in the remake are such shit, and so is the one oompa loompa they used. Terribly annoying.
Wilder is obviously better, but I thought that the cannibal line was funny.
The Nostalgia Critic compared these awhile ago and he brought up something that wasn't touched on here: Charlie Bucket. Though it wouldn't have added a point in the slot of the remake, I did enjoy his point that Bucket in the remake seemed to be "Trying out for Jesus" with how perfect and borderline preachy he was.
Oompa Loompas are scary as shit
The remake is not even close to capturing the greatness of the original.
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I read the books before watching either, and I liked the Tim Burton one more basically because it took less liberties with the plot.
but that was ages ago. I might appreciate the original more if I watched it now.
I watched the original on when I was a child around 1994-1995ish. I saw the 2005 remake on dvd when I was 14-15 and couldn't stand Johnny Depp. It's like he had no idea what was going on and played an idiot the entire movie. I had no sympathy for him. Everytime someone talked to him or asked him a question, he would barely even respond or make an out-of-place joke.
And the Charlie in the new one never does anything wrong. He's boring and too precious. The 70's charlie is an actual kid who wants the chocolate, gets greedy and angry. He is still a human being and not that weird ass kid who's unrealistically selfless. That is to say in every way possible. Old Charlie is much more relatable.
Also most of the songs suck in the remake. Especially the one with rock concert. Why? Tim Burton did a very lackluster job imo.
Spot on. What Burton should have done is have adapted the lesser-known sequel, but thoroughly mad and crazy adventure, Charlie & The Great Glass Elevator. The book is like a Tim Burton fever dream itself, and would be suitable to his brand of weirdness, reminding me of Mars Attacks in parts. It would also be suitable to Depp's more unhinged and less confident version of the character.
If you've never read it, the sequel picks up right after the first ends, and contains aliens, a space hotel, a ton more weirder rooms of the factory, a plotline where Charlie's grandparents are de-aged, including one that is de-aged to the age of -2, which required the group to age her once more in a room of the factory called "Minusland." It's all as strange as it sounds and more, and absolutely perfect for Tim Burton, which is a shame because he refuses to make it.
Yeah, the outcome was kind of a foregone conclusion.
It would be hard for Depp to compete against the nostalgia-elevated Wilder performance anyway, and he just simply misses the heart of the character.
I feel like a Remake Rematch needs to be done by someone who is largely unbiased towards the two versions. It seemed to me that Rorie preferred the original primarily due to nostalgia. While it's almost impossible to be completely absent of bias, I really felt like he could've done better with this one.
I wouldn't take any of these features too seriously. Obviously with something like Sidegrades, where I make up categories and score movies on their relative merits, we're largely just being silly; Remake Rematch is along the same lines.
I actually like Tim Burton's film, though it's certainly not the classic the first film was. In fact, it's kind of hard to watch - it's just lacking that "watchability"; if I see it on tv, I usually change the channel. But when I actually watch it, it's a pretty good (albeit soulless) film. I really like the core stories of the children and watching their comuppence. It's more effective than the Gene Wilder version there. But Wonka doesn't work as well, the Factory itself is much blander and the Oompa Loompas....holy shit, what a misfire. Who possibly thought that hiring an old man midget was a good idea? This is probably the first film of modern times where Johnny Depp's schtick annoys more than not.
Still, at the end of the day, I love the original film.
These features are so good. I wish you'd do them more regularly. Them and Box Office Winner's Leagues.
The tunnel boat scene was fucking disturbing..
man that scene freaked me out when I was a kid
I can't say I hated the remake, If the original didn't exist, it could probably stand on its own as a classic. Can't beat the original.
While it isn't as amazing as the first, I still enjoyed the remake. I remember when the movie came out there was one question that popped up. Which are you going to do; See the movie, or get the new Harry Potter book? I did both.
I dont think any remake will ever come close to the original, sorry Depp but you didn't stand a chance
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