Edward Norton OUT As Hulk In Upcoming Avengers Movie (UPDATE)

Topic started by Pope on July 12, 2010. Last post by lubbs 2 years, 11 months ago.
Post by EasyPeasey (17 posts) See mini bio
Timothy Olyphant, callin it
Post by Dethfish (27 posts) See mini bio
No one fires Ed Norton, god damn it.
Post by AJ (101 posts) See mini bio
Fuck. That.
 
My interest in this movie just plummeted, and now solely rests on the quality of the Thor movie.
Post by bludst0ne (9 posts) See mini bio
Given Marvel's track record in handling even a few larger than life personae (Spidey 3, X3, Origins: Wolverine et al.) I predict, at best, a sub-par summer blockbuster and at worst a colossal failure on the scale of Batman & Robin.
 
Marvel has the better mythos but DC has fared much better overall in it's treatment of theirs in the jump to the big screen. Of course this is all subjective, mind you ;P.
Post by JokerSmilez (437 posts) See mini bio
@Everyones_A_Critic said:
" @JokerSmilez said:
" I'm losing faith in the quality of the coming Marvel movies. Looks like they peaked with Iron Man (the first one) and we'll see a steady decline from here on. "
Meanwhile DC puts out stuff like Watchmen and The Dark Knight, which have become two of my favorite films of all time. Iron Man 2 was a perfectly competent sequel but the lack of focus and plethora of plot-lines show the series going in the wrong direction. I just hope Iron Man 3 doesn't end up like Spider Man 3. Then they'll have to re-boot it and replace Robert Downey Jr. with some unknown. "  
You really loved Watchmen that much? Out of curiosity, did you read the book first?
Post by Everyones_A_Critic (788 posts) See mini bio
@JokerSmilez said:
" @Everyones_A_Critic said:
" @JokerSmilez said:
" I'm losing faith in the quality of the coming Marvel movies. Looks like they peaked with Iron Man (the first one) and we'll see a steady decline from here on. "
Meanwhile DC puts out stuff like Watchmen and The Dark Knight, which have become two of my favorite films of all time. Iron Man 2 was a perfectly competent sequel but the lack of focus and plethora of plot-lines show the series going in the wrong direction. I just hope Iron Man 3 doesn't end up like Spider Man 3. Then they'll have to re-boot it and replace Robert Downey Jr. with some unknown. "  
You really loved Watchmen that much? Out of curiosity, did you read the book first? "
I did read the book first, and I loved it. It's the only graphic novel I've ever read, but I couldn't put it down my first time through. I admire Zack Snyder for having the balls to try to film such a masterpiece, and I think it came out beautifully. I wish they kept the original ending but other than that it was 100% faithful to the source material. Hell, I even bought the "Ultimate Cut" for like $40 when it came out...
Post by Lydian_Sel (2,023 posts) See mini bio
The last Ed Norton performance I really enjoyed was 25th Hour. I'm glad he didn't get accepted to reprise his role as Bruce Banner & I genuinely feel like he still has a lot of talent in him, just not as a comic book character.
Post by JokerSmilez (437 posts) See mini bio
@Everyones_A_Critic: I disagree that it was 100% faithful to the book other than the ending. I mean, they left out a lot of stuff and changed quite a lot of little things that added up to a lot. 
 
The 3 biggest things that bothered me besides the ending were: 
1. How they altered the setting which completely changed the motivations of Ozymandias.  
2. Ozymandias himself wasn't true to the book in just about anyway at all when every other character was spot on
3. They altered the "breaking point" moment of Rorschach which completely changes him from a morally ambiguous character, which is kind of the whole point. 
 
Originally I wasn't disappointed in the changed ending but the more I thought about it, and the more upset I got with the other things mentioned above, the more I was just disappointed in the lack of the true ending. The best parts of the movie was seeing the iconic moments and images recreated on screen and they missed an opportunity to show one of the more iconic scenes from the entire book. When I really thought about how awesome it would have been to see the books ending on screen, the more upset I got at the changed ending. I was really disappointed with Watchmen. 
 
So far, there's only been a small few comic movies I really enjoyed. Dark Knight, Sin City, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man are probably it (in that order). I also liked V for Vendetta but I know a lot of people who have read the book who didn't like it, so I can only comment on it as a standalone movie, not as an adaptation. 
Post by Everyones_A_Critic (788 posts) See mini bio
@JokerSmilez said:
" @Everyones_A_Critic: I disagree that it was 100% faithful to the book other than the ending. I mean, they left out a lot of stuff and changed quite a lot of little things that added up to a lot.  The 3 biggest things that bothered me besides the ending were: 1. How they altered the setting which completely changed the motivations of Ozymandias.  2. Ozymandias himself wasn't true to the book in just about anyway at all when every other character was spot on3. They altered the "breaking point" moment of Rorschach which completely changes him from a morally ambiguous character, which is kind of the whole point.  Originally I wasn't disappointed in the changed ending but the more I thought about it, and the more upset I got with the other things mentioned above, the more I was just disappointed in the lack of the true ending. The best parts of the movie was seeing the iconic moments and images recreated on screen and they missed an opportunity to show one of the more iconic scenes from the entire book. When I really thought about how awesome it would have been to see the books ending on screen, the more upset I got at the changed ending. I was really disappointed with Watchmen.  So far, there's only been a small few comic movies I really enjoyed. Dark Knight, Sin City, Incredible Hulk, and Iron Man are probably it (in that order). I also liked V for Vendetta but I know a lot of people who have read the book who didn't like it, so I can only comment on it as a standalone movie, not as an adaptation.  "
I enjoyed V for Vendetta as well, and I haven't read the book. No matter which way you look at it, the changed ending just stinks of something Hollywood did to "dumb the movie down". As much as I loved the movie, upon repeat viewings Malin Akerman's performance as Silk Spectre II was wooden to say the least. I also thought Matthew Goode's turn as Ozymandias wasn't the best, and I think he may have been miscast. Even with these flaws, though, I still think the amazing reproduction of the most iconic scenes and the performances by Jackie Earle Haley and Jeffrey Dean Morgan elevated the film immensely and made it my favorite comic book movie ever. I recommend watching the Director's Cut of the film (Note: different from the "Ultimate Cut") because they did add a rather significant amount of extra footage that helped flesh out some of the more vague aspects of the film (Hollis Mason's fate to be exact). It's not going to inspire a revelation in your opinion, but I think it might be worth it. The Ultimate Cut has the whole Tales of the Black Freighter film woven in, and as a result adds some book-ending scenes (no terrible pun intended) that only the most die-hard fans will ever care about. Not to mention that it's like....nearly four hours long. So yeah, The Director's Cut is worth a look if you ever feel so inclined.  
 
This is sort of random, but what'd you think of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Did you see it, or read the book, or both? That film got slaughtered by the critics and completely destroyed Alan Moore's already limited sense of trust with Hollywood's adaptations of his work. I thought it was ok. 
Post by JokerSmilez (437 posts) See mini bio
@Everyones_A_Critic:  
I think the Rorschach breaking scene is the scene that stuck with me the most from the book and it really disappointed me that they changed it. Puts a very different spin on the scene and the character as a whole. 
 
I have seen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen but I haven't read the book. It was ok, but nothing to write home about. Some of the "extraordinary" characters were interesting, but that's about it. Before Dark Knight came out, I would have said Sin City was the best possible way to make a comic book movie. Actually, I still think that because Dark Knight is barely a comic book movie. It's a movie based on characters from comic books, which isn't really the same. 
 
I think if you're going to make a movie like Watchmen or Sin City or really any adaptation of a book, graphic novel, etc, it really bugs me when they start makes changes to characters, plot, etc. because if you thought they were good enough to make a movie about in the first place, why not leave them the way they are? Give the movie going audience some credit. You don't have to "dumb down" a comic book or alter it to make it acceptable for a movie audience.
Post by Spiral_Stars (344 posts) See mini bio
I guess Feigne feels he can be a douche now that he has a bunch of super successful movies under his belt.
Post by Undeadpool (713 posts) See mini bio
Kinda saw this coming...even if there wasn't the bad blood, can they really afford to sign Robert Downey Jr. AND Edward Norton to a multi-picture deal on what's already going to be a massively budgeted movie? 
It's a shame, though, I really did like that Hulk movie.
Post by fuzzay (444 posts) See mini bio
Just call Lou Ferrigno, he's close enough. Right?
Post by RYNO9881 (61 posts) See mini bio
People give Joss Whedon way to much credit. All of his recent stuff have been absolute garbage. I hope this movie goes well but I'm pretty sure it's going to suck.
Post by lubbs (5 posts) See mini bio
fking politics!!!!!
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