Bruce Wayne Hangs Up The Cowl: Christian Bale Declares Retirement From Batman

Topic started by Rorie on Nov. 28, 2011. Last post by hitsu 1 year, 5 months ago.
Post by Rorie (3,216 posts) See mini bio
Who will wear me now?
Who will wear me now?

In news that should shock precisely no one, Christian Bale says he's done with Batman after The Dark Knight Rises. He left open some possibility for doubt in November, when he said that "This will be, I believe, until Chris [Nolan] says different, the last time I’ll be playing Batman." Now it looks like he's confirmed that Christopher Nolan had nothing different to say on the matter, telling the Philippine Daily Inquirer: "I wrapped a few days ago so that will be the last time I’m taking that cowl off."

Again, not a huge surprise: everyone has always kind of assumed that this would be the final Nolan/Bale Batman film, what with trilogies seeming to be the ideal time to wrap up your storytelling, lest you wind up overstaying your welcome and making crappy movies. It's worth asking, though, what Warner's plans are for the franchise going forward: there's absolutely no way that they're going to let Batman lie fallow for more than a few years before attempting to move forward with some other creative team.

Their options would seem to include:

The Continuation: Bring another creative director in to continue the story that Nolan established in his world. Tonally, that would seem to include a commitment to the grittier, real-world Gotham that Nolan and his co-writers have established. And, since The Dark Knight Rises takes place eight years after The Dark Knight, you'd have to assume that a slightly older actor would have to take the role of Bruce Wayne, possibly someone in the 40 to 50 range. (If George Clooney wasn't apparently done with any kind of physical role after some serious injuries, I'd nominate him, partly for laughs and partly to see how he'd approach it 15 years after he killed the franchise the first time.) This would arguably the hardest way for anyone to go, as you'd have to be a pretty hack-y director to want to take over the universe that has been established so well by another creator, but stranger things have happened. (If I recall correctly, there was even talk at one point of having two Batman film series being in production at the same time, like how the Call Of Duty games switch developers. That obviously never happened, thankfully.)

Teen Batman? In my theater? It's more likely than you think.
Teen Batman? In my theater? It's more likely than you think.

The Reboot: Another option would be to attempt another reboot of the series, although Batman Begins is barely six years old again. Attempting this would allow you to cash in on the goodwill that Nolan created for the franchise while also retaining younger, less expensive actors and creators. They're doing it with Superman and Spider-Man, so don't think that this is out of the question, although I can't see this happening anytime in the immediate future: the three-year gaps between current Batman films seem to be a pretty good pace, but you'd have to imagine that they'd want to give it a little more time to breathe before announcing the inevitable reboot. There will be five years between Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man, which is probably about the minimum audiences will accept between original films and a reboot, but which might also be the maximum a studio will consider appropriate to wait, assuming there's some die-off in consumer awareness.

The Surprise: A third, probably crazier option would be to restart the franchise, but stylize it in such a way as to attempt to reduce comparisons to what's come before. Highly-stylized crime-fighting films have been done before, with some success (Dick Tracy) and some failures (The Spirit), but it is at least some kind of option, perhaps especially if we're willing to consider adapting some of Batman's more odd Elseworlds appearances, or just throwing him into a different time period. Batman in the 50's? Batman in the near-future?

Let's just assume, for a second, that Warner Bros. decides to keep their current momentum going and simply recasts the Christian Bale-esque Batman and finds a new director to replace Nolan. Who would you pick for the roles? I'm struggling to even come up with a name of someone that could actually slip into Bale's shoes and not feel immensely wrong there, but there has to be someone who could bulk up and try to be the hero that Batman deserves. You know they'd try and get Leonardo DiCaprio to do it, although if I had to pick someone a bit older, I think Ralph Fiennes might be an interesting choice. He'd likely never do it, but it'd be fun if he did!

Post by Tomrock (96 posts) See mini bio

If I was in charge I would totally retire/kill Bruce Wayne and do a Batman in the future. The animated Batman Beyond was awesome.

Post by CrimsonAvenger (1,277 posts) See mini bio

Give Dick Grayson the cowl or do Batman Beyond. Honestly I'm not terribly sad at seeing Bale or Nolan go. I enjoyed their work on Batman Begins quite a lot so I am a little sad. What about Armie Hammer for the role? He was once casted for Batman in the Justice League movie that was shelved.

Post by banunn@gmail.com (4 posts) See mini bio

I would love to see at least one movie wherein they took the Dark Knight Returns storyline for a stroll! An older batman like Mickey Rourke or Bruce Willis would be really great. I think at that point you could let it be a more thoughtful film featuring a very dark riddler.

Post by RockinKemosabe (884 posts) See mini bio

@Tomrock said:

If I was in charge I would totally retire/kill Bruce Wayne and do a Batman in the future. The animated Batman Beyond was awesome.

Yeah, it'd be interesting to see a Batman Beyond still in the Nolan universe.

Post by activatetheasset (65 posts) See mini bio

@banunn@gmail.com said:

I would love to see at least one movie wherein they took the Dark Knight Returns storyline for a stroll! An older batman like Mickey Rourke or Bruce Willis would be really great. I think at that point you could let it be a more thoughtful film featuring a very dark riddler.

I could get behind this. It could still be considered a continuation of the Nolan films, but whoever was directing would definitely be able to put their own distinct spin on Batman. And Dark Knight Returns is still uncharted territory in terms of film. We've always had young playboy Bruce Wayne. Let's see what a good director could do with a grizzled veteran Bruce Wayne.

EDIT: I also think Mickey Rourke could pull off older Bruce Wayne. Just to throw out another name, how about Ray Liotta? And this gives you an opportunity to bring the Joker back. Who would make a good old Joker?

Post by CRACKERMAN92 (14 posts) See mini bio
Ralph Fiennes as Wayne and Ridley Scott directing.
Post by Eujin (18 posts) See mini bio

@Tomrock: I would very much pay money to see a Batman Beyond movie.

As long as the actor is no less than 17, and has passed puberty. If you squeeky-voice Terry McGinnis, I will punch the casting director in the face.

Post by ProjektGill (300 posts) See mini bio

I wonder if there is still way to incorporate any of the Bat family into new films. I would love to see a live action version of the Death in the Family/Under the Red Hood stuff with a crazy Jason Todd. It would be hard to pull that off in a single film but it would be awesome see. Or hell, bring Damian in and have him be as crazy violent as Hit-Girl.

Post by kennyshat (136 posts) See mini bio

Well if they did The Dark Knight Returns, they could have completely different actors portray the characters, and they could make the whole thing pretty stylized at the same time, without it being a proper reboot. They could just skip the Harvey Dent stuff since he's dead in The Dark Knight, and do the Joker / Mutants stuff.

Post by Theresonlyone (16 posts) See mini bio

@banunn@gmail.com: @activatetheasset: Micky rourke playing Frank Miller's The Dark Knight style batman. Bruce as a darker more grizzled Batman.

Post by TheFaithfullyDeparted (1,921 posts) See mini bio

Leo is by far my favorite actor, love the slicked back hair, but him as batman would just be wrong

Post by karobit (49 posts) See mini bio

Guys, guys. He said that's the last time he's taking the cowl OFF. He's not quitting Batman films, he's becoming Batman forever.

But not, you know, Batman Forever.

Post by ddensel (298 posts) See mini bio

I agree with the people calling for The Dark Knight Returns. The graphic novel is dense enough to support two movies, which seems to be en vogue nowadays. Not to mention the fight with Superman at the end would be the greatest thing ever put to celluloid.

Post by MrMazz (1,541 posts) See mini bio

No No reboot let the series rest for a year or two

Post by AuthenticM (303 posts) See mini bio

I would take either a reboot or a continuation, as long as the talent behind the movie is there. I nominate Nicolas Refn as director and Ryan Gosling as Batman.

Post by GunsAreDrawn (17 posts) See mini bio

I was thinking this morning that I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to make a Catwoman spin off, that is if she doesn't die in this film.

Post by AlwaysBeClothing (289 posts) See mini bio

When I read the headline I thought it was Bale quitting in the middle of filming or something but if they're done shooting... Eh, Let Bale pursue other projects. Like Terminator. Or something else.

Post by FinalDasa (2,777 posts) See mini bio
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Best to quit now then when the franchise is going south.

Post by mattman734 (30 posts) See mini bio

@MrMazz said:

No No reboot let the series rest for a year or two

I think if another batman came out a year from this one that would still be too soon... but i get your point

I agree it will probably be a long while before a batman as good as this one will come.

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