I managed to pick this up for £7 on blu-ray on a random visit to amazon. I was blown away and I still hold it as possibly one of my favourite films. I can understand people's criticisms but I stay strong in saying the themes and ideas of this film are fantastic. The graphic novel is definitely worth a read to provide another look on the story.
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Defending Your Movie: The Fountain
Topic started by JoeyF on March 29, 2011.
Last post by Kaiserpunch 1 year, 2 months ago.
@ethan said:
" Does anyone else see the similarity between The Fountain and AntiChrist? Or is that just me? "I thought AntiChrist was largely successful as a functional horror movie. The only thing they have in common is a scene where you're supposed to feel one way but instead burst out laughing (the talking fox in antichrist, the cum tree in The Fountain). Lars Von Trier has the ego the size of a hot air balloon but he really leaves his stamp on film. Nobody makes anything like what he makes where Aaronofsky has several contemporaries trying too hard to say everything.
@Gabriel said:
@TadThuggish said:
Wait, wait, wait. Did you basically say he's not good enough to appreciate the "artistic" vision of this movie?
I agree with norusdog on this one personally, but in real life would you really give that crazy ass man that comes up to you and bears his soul anything other than a weird look or a laugh? At some point the snake eats its own tale and the intent falls flat. I believe they call that "trying too hard". Or at least being up one's own ass.
" I did not like the fountain except for the conquistador parts, whole movie should have been about that. "Conceptually much more interesting than this ridiculous three timeline bullshit.
@TadThuggish said:
" @norusdog said:" The Fountain fails because it lacks being interesting enough to WANT to divulge deeper into it's "meanings" and "messages" THAT is a failing of the director. I love "strange"/"off"/whatever you want to call them, movies that require thinking and a deeper look into messages, metaphors and all that. As long as it interests me enough to do so. The failure, again, with The Fountain is the director fails to do that. It's heartfelt, sure, but not interesting enough to even try to understand or delve that deeply into. "The Fountain wasn't made exclusively for you or any member of the viewing audience. It's aesthetically beautiful, and can be appreciated in a way that doesn't involve hand-holding and the director crossing his fingers and praying that critics go nuts for it. If a man were to come up and bear his soul to you in the most poetic of ways, should you A.) Listen intently and marvel at the story and the way the story is being told? or B.) say "Waaaaait a minute, I've never been in your situation so how is this interesting to me?" The dick move is B, clearly.
So what you have is a clash of mindset. People who like the film keep saying "film film film film film," while people who dislike keep saying "me me me me me." Aronofsky made the Fountain without caring about what you think, and as soon as you realize and accept that the sooner you'll be able to appreciate it. Sometimes you just have to enjoy the sunset over a remarkable landscape and not immediately start up with "Pfft, what's this pretty sunset really doing for me?" "
Wait, wait, wait. Did you basically say he's not good enough to appreciate the "artistic" vision of this movie?
I agree with norusdog on this one personally, but in real life would you really give that crazy ass man that comes up to you and bears his soul anything other than a weird look or a laugh? At some point the snake eats its own tale and the intent falls flat. I believe they call that "trying too hard". Or at least being up one's own ass.
The problem with this movie is that if you already agreed with the message, like I did, it won't have any impact on you and it will just look silly. It does have an awesome score thou.
What's the message you ask? Don't worry about death, it's stupid to do so.
What's the message you ask? Don't worry about death, it's stupid to do so.
I may have been way too, ahem, "under the influence" when I watched this, but I remember almost none of this. The visuals are AMAZING. Really. The Soundtrack is so good (Mogwai had a hand in it, that makes it awesome.)
This movie and Enter the Void are two of my favorite films.
This movie and Enter the Void are two of my favorite films.
The Fountain is one of those movies that I always mean to watch but never have the enthusiasm for, but seeing this latest edition of Defending Your Movie might just be the push I need. Perhaps I'll check it out later in the week & force my lady to sit through it with me.
@Tom_Pinchuk said:
" I don't think it's really open interpretation. It obviously is the second "reading" Rorie offers. "
so you're saying only the stuff in the present was real?
I thought the 2000 was where the story started, after planting the tree he ended up living to the 2500 timeline and going to Xibalba he was reborn into the 1500 incarnation who became the Tree of Life...okay, well actually, that just sounds confusing now...maybe I need to watch it a second time
I have a feeling the critical LA Times reviewer mentioned in this video would have nothing against this very common sensical defense of abstractness, conceptual complexity and ambiguity in movies; indeed, to call a particular film "pretentious" would not make sense if there weren't any artistic heights to aspire to which the director in question failed to reach...
The original score for this movie was the only score that has ever been able to impart a strong emotion in me other than excitement, alla John Williams. The movie is sad by itself, but the music gave me a profound sense of sadness all by itself, thats amazing.
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