What Does The Incredibles Really Have To Say About Being Special?

Topic started by Rorie on July 28, 2011. Last post by Kristofski 1 year, 9 months ago.
Post by Rorie (3,216 posts) See mini bio
Poster children for exceptionalism, or modern gods, angered at the mere mortals in their midst?
Poster children for exceptionalism, or modern gods, angered at the mere mortals in their midst?

I recently shot a Besties entry on The Incredibles, and I still consider it my favorite of the various Pixar films, for a variety of reasons: the amazingly breathless action sequences, the wonderful throwback-60’s visual design, the fantastic score, the strong characterizations, the genuine humor. One thing has always kind of intrigued me, though, is its plainly-stated moral of “when everyone’s special, no one is.” That’s a kind of mantra that’s repeated multiple times through the film, and it’s a frustration that is echoed somewhat commonly in modern society: some people work extremely hard for their success and don’t deserve to be taxed into oblivion/made co-valedictorian with someone who didn’t work as hard/have a harder time getting into college than someone else based on the color of their skin, etc.

I can’t speak to the mind of Brad Bird, obviously, and I don’t really want to get into real-world politics (although, if I did, I’d link to this Fox News report calling Mr. Rogers an “evil man” for insisting that everyone is, indeed, “special”), but the application of the theme in the film has often rubbed me in an odd way. Mr. Incredible blows up as he refuses to attend his son’s “graduation ceremony” from the third to the fourth grade: “We keep finding new ways to celebrate mediocrity, but when someone is truly exceptional...!” The odd thing about the Incredible family, and where I find a disconnect between their plight and the slogan of the film, is that they have done precisely nothing to earn their exceptionalness, which makes their continued crowing about being beaten down for being “special” a bit odd.

The Incredibles are, of course, forced into a kind of witness protection program after the government bans all superpowered activity, an action that is primarily spurred by a particularly disastrous night for Mr. Incredible himself. Cut to a dozen or so years later, and the Incredibles have recast themselves as Mr. and Mrs. Bob and Helen Parr, heads of a normal suburban family with 2.5 kids and a home with a white picket fence. They’re not particularly happy with their lot, and neither is their son Dash, who has no outlet to actually use his speedy powers. The whole family essentially lives in fear of having to be relocated when someone discovers that they’re actually super-powered, and so they mostly are forced to deny their true natures, except for Bob, who engages in midnight heroism sprees with his old superhero friend Frozone. Denied their opportunity to utilize their unique talents, they’ve been brought down to the level of everyone else.

What’s curious about all this is, again, that the Incredibles have done nothing to be worthy of their powers; it’s never explained how Bob and Helen Parr obtained their abilities, but if their children gained them through genetics, it stands to reason that their parents did as well. And thus we’re left with what is effectively a separate, super-powered race that stands above the merely average, “unspecial” capabilities of normal humans. It’s an echo of the kinds of frustrations that the mutants have in the X-Men universe, save that the superpowered individuals in The Incredibles are apparently not the constant target of Sentinels or racism or violence, merely the occasional lawsuit.

The interplay between Syndrome and the Incredibles is one of the oddest of the film; although driven by jealousy and hatred of the blessed superheroes in his midst, Syndrome can be taken as a kind of Prometheus figure; his stated goal is to release his technology to everyone, enabling everyone to be “special.” The end result, that everyone will be on a level playing field with the supers, is taken to be almost intrinsically evil. What’s odd is that Syndrome is the only super-powered individual in the film who’s actually done any work towards achieving his goals; the Incredibles have all simply seen their powers fall into their laps, and seem to feel an entitlement to actually use them, regardless of the laws of the land.

If I have an issue with the film, it’s that Bird’s apparent analogy between superheroes in the world of The Incredibles and people with genuine talent in the real world falls apart after the introduction of Syndrome. Bird seems to be raving against the notion that “everyone is special” in the real world, which he sees as a way for the average and unexceptional members of society to hold back those with unique talents or the will to succeed, but his superheroes have obtained their powers seemingly only at random, by accident of birth; their greatest villain is precisely the kind of go-getter and self-starter that the movie seems to wish to celebrate in real life. He’s an entrepreneur and someone who wishes to apply his unique talents; the fact that he’s also a murderer and a genuinely evil person doesn’t negate that. If anything, it only muddles the analogy further; should “non-special” people in the real world not even bother to try and emulate those who have achieved success? Is doing so an amoral act? Is there some natural pecking order between those who can and those who can’t; is attempting to climb above your station evil? When I extrapolate what The Incredibles seems to be talking about into the real world, I interpret it as an argument for a strict meritocracy, which is definitely a valid political/social viewpoint, but the actions and backgrounds of the characters in the film itself seem to counteract that notion. Is my extrapolation incorrect, or my interpretation of the film's events and characters?

I’d be the first to admit that I find the notion of assuming that everyone is capable of precisely the same achievement level a bit offensive; there are, indeed, people who achieve greater success than others through the dint of hard work and late nights of self-betterment. You can have two reactions to the “everyone is special in their own way” message of Mr. Rogers and Sesame Street, though; you can find it a cynical ploy to erase the natural differences that may see some children more capable of success than others and discourage young people from working hard to succeed, or you can see it as an encouraging message to be your best in any endeavour that you come to, no matter what limitations you may be saddled with. I’m a cynical asshole, to be sure, but I’ve always interpreted it more as an encouragement to those children who might be a bit slower in the race or less capable in the classroom than as a method to bring the exceptional kids down to everyone else’s level. After all, if someone watches too much Mr. Rogers and decides that their innate specialness means that they don’t have to try as hard to be exceptional, were they really that exceptional to be begin with?

I’m curious if you think my interpretation of the film is a bit off; this is one of those films that I find fascinating for multiple reasons, and, again, I still consider it my favorite among the Pixar canon. I think its real-world analogies are defensible, perhaps, but I also think that they’re undercut by some confusing complications in the film itself. What do you think, though? Should The Incredibles be thought of as nothing more than a movie? Or can it be read as a real-world parable? Should it be read that way, and if so, does anything about it bother you?

Post by djramshackle92 (0 posts) See mini bio
I love the Incredibles.
Post by litrock (560 posts) See mini bio

I love this article, because I've always felt this, and it seemed to be a much darker, less warm feeling than Brad Bird's other superhero opus The Iron Giant. Don't have any answers, really, but it's worth thinking about.

Post by skywing (58 posts) See mini bio

There was an article about this exact same topic on an MCAT I took a few months ago. It was bay far the best read I've ever had on the the test.

Post by tds418 (93 posts) See mini bio

All of this went well over my head when I watched the Incredibles. I'm just sad that Wall-E isn't your favorite pixar movie :)

I think you raise some interesting points though. I think any movie can and should be analyzed for real-world parables...even if the creators didn't intend for there to be any commentary on society a movie can often raise some interesting questions about society.

Post by Sword5 (2 posts) See mini bio
We do live in a world where some kid sports don't keep score because everyone should win. Good article, but I think the "everyone is special" has gone too far these days.
Post by berfarah (7 posts) See mini bio
Where I disagree with you is the part where you say they have done nothing to earn their superpowers - insofar as I think that's not the point. You do nothing to earn your genetics, that's just a fact. Someone born with a higher potential IQ than another person has done nothing to earn that, just like someone born with great stamina too did not earn his or her genetics. 
 
I believe the term people usually use is "gifted" - if you're gifted, you should be given the room to exploit those gifts, and what makes you special is how you use them. The Incredibles could just as easily be using their super powers only for their own benefit, but instead dedicate themselves to a life of fighting crime. 
 
Being exceptional is neither entirely genetic, nor entirely based on hard work - it's when the two meet.
Post by Cuuniyevo (4 posts) See mini bio
I'm heading out the door, so I don't have time to speak to all of the points raised by the article, but I would like to address the part with Bucky/Syndrome. Ideally, Mr. Incredible would have been more considerate of Bucky at the beginning of the movie, but come on, Bob didn't actually do anything wrong there. Bucky was a stalker, albeit a young and naive, unintentional one and Bob had bigger things on his plate at the time. Could he have slowed down and given Bucky more time? Yes. Should he have had to? No. As for later in the movie, when Syndrome spoke of releasing technology to the world, that particular bit wasn't what was so morally wrong (even if he did ever actually mean it; remember that he said he'd save the best stuff for himself and was selling, not giving away some of his weapons). What was wrong was that he was murdering people, abducting people, gearing up to attack cities (there were multiple rockets in his base, not just the one he launched), and so on. His ingenuity wasn't the problem.
Post by Rorie (3,216 posts) See mini bio

@berfarah: That's a valid point.

Post by damnitsted (317 posts) See mini bio
after watching The Incredibles again not to long ago, I found myself thinking along the same thought line. 
very well written @Rorie 
Post by Kaspar (40 posts) See mini bio
@berfarah said:
Where I disagree with you is the part where you say they have done nothing to earn their superpowers - insofar as I think that's not the point. You do nothing to earn your genetics, that's just a fact. Someone born with a higher potential IQ than another person has done nothing to earn that, just like someone born with great stamina too did not earn his or her genetics.  I believe the term people usually use is "gifted" - if you're gifted, you should be given the room to exploit those gifts, and what makes you special is how you use them. The Incredibles could just as easily be using their super powers only for their own benefit, but instead dedicate themselves to a life of fighting crime.  Being exceptional is neither entirely genetic, nor entirely based on hard work - it's when the two meet.
You my friend shall receive the highest internet honor for your amazing contribution to this discussion.
Post by CrimsonAvenger (1,277 posts) See mini bio
I'll admit I'm clueless as to what Objectivism is but I can say I feel everyone is special in their own way. Despite that, you wrote a good article even though I'm clueless as to what you're talking about. Also The Incredibles is also my favorite Pixar film.
Post by Deathpooky (47 posts) See mini bio

@berfarah: I think that's a good counter, but the problem is that even those with high IQ or athletic prowess usually have to work hard to succeed, especially to the a "superhero" level of success. We're shown Mr. Incredible working out at one point, but largely what they can do is gifted and unearned.

In that respect they're closer to an aristocracy or trust fund baby - gifted with power from birth and with little required from them to earn it. Both of which are far less respected, at least in the American ideal of hard work and ingenuity leading to success. And in human experience, unearned power tends to lead to bad results. We only see the heroes of the Incredibles world, but I doubt in a world of superpowered people that all of them would choose to do good. In that respect the movie kind ignores one of the common themes explored in superhero fiction.

And regardless, I still think the implication that Syndrome's goal being wrong is the strangest part of the movie - the making everyone special goal obviously, not his destroy the world to inflate his own ego and stature goal. 90's-style pretending everyone is special is problematic. Communist-style cutting down special individuals is wrong. But raising everyone up to the same level I don't see a problem with.

Post by TwoOneFive (732 posts) See mini bio
seriously cannot wait to see Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol
Post by Walker_after_dark (238 posts) See mini bio

I think if you're going to talk about Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers, you really have to consider the broader social context at the time of their creation. The message that "everyone is special" was designed to show both white kids and black kids that they were equal; up to that point, the message that both groups had been getting was that white kids were superior in every way. Those shows were intended to foster tolerance, combat racism, and promote education in order to raise everyone up. They were not some subtle socialist conspiracy to create a sense of entitlement in the viewers, or to destroy the psyches of all the little budding ubermenches. I think that's a very modern viewpoint that attempts to deny the original context and twist the original purpose.

If anything, I would say that The Incredibles actually reinforces Mr. Rogers' message. Syndrome is not promoting specialness, he's actually promoting mediocrity. I think that's what is meant when he says, "when everyone is special, no one will be". He seeks to create a flat, bland world of drones by stamping out individuality, and I think Bird's message is that you should resist that type of thing. Society as a whole is better and more interesting when people are allowed to be themselves, and we are all allowed to be special in our own way.

Post by Chris (62 posts) See mini bio

Incredible read Rorie. Haven't seen the move in awhile, but it's also my favorite of the Pixar movies.

Don't have much to say to this because I find all your points valid and enlightening. Won't change how much I love the film, but it does have a weird oxymoron there that I hadn't really thought about before.

Post by drscott (99 posts) See mini bio
Is The Incredibles just a film, a parable for modern-day education, or a neo-Objectivist statement? What do YOU think? 
 
I think SOME people read too much into simple things ;)
Post by LoopyChew (32 posts) See mini bio
@Deathpooky said:

And regardless, I still think the implication that Syndrome's goal being wrong is the strangest part of the movie - the making everyone special goal obviously, not his destroy the world to inflate his own ego and stature goal. 90's-style pretending everyone is special is problematic. Communist-style cutting down special individuals is wrong. But raising everyone up to the same level I don't see a problem with.

It's not that Syndrome's GOAL is wrong, it's what he's willing to do to ACHIEVE that goal--murder superheroes and endanger civilians--that's wrong, as well as his motivation.  As Bob says: "You killed off real heroes so you could pretend to be one?"  He's not destroying the world to inflate his own ego and stature; it's just a side effect, a "you gotta break eggs" thing.
 
Had Buddy gone about advertising his devices in a different manner and such and NOT weaponized it, had he done it to genuinely help people instead of profiting off of it, I think the Incredibles would've been fine with it.  But no, he was making military weaponry, experimenting on public defenders to death with it, and waiting until there were so few that he could exploit the weakness in the public and make himself a false pretender to the superhero throne.  It's a cold, calculated move that only someone without any sort of compassion for humanity can make, and while Bob may have put him there that one fateful night, Buddy could have chosen to be a better hero by actually being a better hero and raising the bar instead of erasing it so he could mark one of his own.
Post by Fantasgasmic (53 posts) See mini bio
I love this movie, but I also view it as a blatant right wing, Randian, Objectivist bullshit propaganda. The message isn't just that "if everyone is special, then nobody is," it's "if you aren't special, know your place and don't try to be special." Bob clearly sees his son Dash as some sort of Howard Roark figure who is denied being a "prime mover" by having to not run as fast as he can. The suing of Mr Incredible and other heroes is an obvious right wing commentary about "frivolous lawsuits" and "tort reform" and "class warfare" of the underclass "exploiting" the übermensch (literally). I can't recall specifically but I'd assume that in one of the fights against Syndrome's spherical robots Bob was probably in an Atlas pose, referencing Atlas Shrugged. The government is seen as over-reaching by suggesting they may need to relocate the Parr's if they get discovered again, and also kind of inept, in that all they can do is move superheroes around.
Post by Vichyssoise (336 posts) See mini bio
I don't agree with all of your points, but I'm so glad you wrote this article.  It was a fascinating read and added some meat to my favorite Pixar movie.
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