About Last Night: The Walking Dead, "Vatos"

Topic started by Pope on Nov. 22, 2010. Last post by phoenix87x 6 months, 4 weeks ago.
Post by Pope (122 posts) See mini bio
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People who were clamoring for more action and suspense after last week's slower episode got just that in episode 4 of The Walking Dead, entitled "Vatos."  
 
In this week's episode, the survivors continue with their search for Merle after discovering the bulk of him missing on the rooftop where they left him--the hand was still there, of course. They also have a run-in with some new potential baddies, The Vatos, who appear to be a Latino street gang prowling around Atlanta looking for trouble. Back at the camp, Shane has to deal with a bit of fallout from last week's beatdown session as he deals with the frenzied Jim ( Andrew Rothenberg). 
 


Starting off the show with a heartfelt jive session between the blonde sisters, Andrea ( Laurie Holden) and Amy ( Emma Bell), you know it's not going to end well for at least one of them. On top of that, add Jim's crazed grave digging, throw it in a pot, add some broth, a potato, and baby you've got a foreboding stew going! The foreshadowing of what was to come seemed a tad too heavy-handed from what I've come to expect from the show thus far, but it lent itself well to building the tension throughout the episode.
 
As the survivors searched Atlanta for Merle, I was happy to come around on Daryl and find he's not as awful and one-dimensional as his brother has been painted. There seems to be some humanity that Norman Reedus is bringing to the role. They could have easily made him a clone of his brother, but it's looking like that won't be the case. I also am enjoying how Merle's disappearance is at once both a cause of grief for his brother, and cause for concern with Grimes. The episode did a great job of playing this out without once even showing Merle at all. 
 
Let's talk about the Vatos, as I had a bit of a problem with how their story played out. Given what we know from watching the episode (and if you want to avoid spoilers, you should have already stopped reading way before this) these are nice guys caring for sick old folks in a nursing home. Why would they have taken Glenn hostage when they jumped him and Daryl in the street? I get that they are tough guys, and were angling to get that bag of guns, which would help them protect the adorable elderly, but why the hostage-taking? It built up to a great standoff scene with the Vatos, culminating in a genuine guffaw from me when the Abuela came down. It really took me aback, and I'm still not sure if I was supposed to think that was funny or not? 
 
I liked the twist, in the end, as it turned this group of thugs into endearing men. You want to hope cases like that would happen in a zombie apocalypse, right? It just seems like the whole standoff/hostage thing doesn't make any sense. Guillermo ( Neil Brown Jr) seemed pretty comfortable letting the survivors take Miguel (Anthony Guajardo). I can totally buy that Guillermo may have been posturing big time for fear of looking weak to potential invaders, but it maybe went a little far. 
 
The final scene of the episode brought the zombie gore hot and heavy, as an onslaught of walkers stumbled into the camp and made mincemeat out of the bulk of the non-speaking actors from the group, as well as a couple of mainstays. I was happy to see the wife beater get his, and was not at all surprised that Amy would get it when she went off by herself to the bathroom. The show didn't give us a ton of time to get to know Amy, so her death (and possible zombie re-appearance?) didn't hit very hard. I will say that Laurie Holden's pure despair while Amy died is some of the best acting yet exhibited on the show, and what emotion I did feel from that scene came from the extended shot of Andrea's face as the gravity of Amy's death set in on her. 
 
With only two episodes left in the first season, I already feel like we've been taken on one hell of a ride with The Walking Dead. Despite my couple of gripes with this week's episode, I still quite enjoyed it overall. I'm excited to see what happens upon Merle's return, as well as how the survivors will bounce back from the zombie attack. Stay tuned till next week!
Post by Spiral_Stars (344 posts) See mini bio
I think Glen was taken hostage because he was holding the bag, and those dudes didn't want to waste time ripping the bag from him while a dude with a crossbow was around, although Glenn ended up dropping the bag anyways. Anyways, they needed some leverage in order to get the bag of guns back.

Post by Make_Me_Mad (20 posts) See mini bio
This episode was pretty good, but the dialogue from Grimes continues to throw me for a loop.  He seems way too level headed for a random cop who gets shot and wakes up in a zombie apocalypse.  Guy sounds like a psychiatry textbook every time he opens his mouth.
Post by psychpunk (271 posts) See mini bio
Yeah everything is way too moral and sentimental from what I've come to expect from AMC, but if they keep things at this balance of (not the greatest) characters and action then it'd be a fun show to catch every week.
Post by cstrang (59 posts) See mini bio
I thought this was probably the best episode yet.  I will say, Pope, you and I have very differing opinions on what is gravitas and what is excessive.
Post by PatVB (3,546 posts) See mini bio
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It was a pretty good episode overall, but the gang caring for the elderly was a little hokey. Also, Andrea should REALLY not stand so close to her dead sister...
Post by Feser (359 posts) See mini bio

I wonder how much they are going to sell each of these seasons for because it's only six episodes per season . . . . right? I must wrong about that.
Post by IronRinn (34 posts) See mini bio
Good episode though I thought the opening scene was really poorly written. Jim's short monologue as he's cuffed was appropriately chilling. I did notice that this episode was written by Kirkman (apparently the only episode he wrote for the first season) something that, perhaps, makes that first scene all the more disappointing.
Post by IronRinn (34 posts) See mini bio
@Feser Only the first season is 6 episodes. The second is going to be more like 12 I think.
Post by sureokay (322 posts) See mini bio
Sigh. The Walking Dead is just OKAY to me. Seems very lazy at some parts. But I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority.
Post by Osaladin (32 posts) See mini bio
Laurie Holden's character is going to get together with Grimes, you just wait.  Also  Laurie Holden is hot. 
 
@make_me_mad: I think Grimes is so level headed because of what he went through, not in spite of it. Dude went through hell to get his family back so he has a new perspective on life.
Post by risseless (129 posts) See mini bio
"I will say that Laurie Holden's pure despair while Amy died is some of the best acting yet exhibited on the show." 
 
This. The first episode had some truly fantastic moments -- putting the bicycle girl out of her misery, not being able to shoot your own wife-turned-zombie -- but those moments have been a bit lacking in later episodes. That was, until this scene. I hope they get back to zombies as ex-humans like the first episode, rather than just gun fodder as they have become. Presuming Amy rises as a zombie, there's a good opportunity for that. Prime drama potential there.
Post by myrsnok (40 posts) See mini bio
Being a Swede, I couldn't help giggling after I saw that this week's episode was directed by the man singing in this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQR9bw-4R08
Post by Gregomasta (36 posts) See mini bio
FANTASTIC episode. 
Post by Flap_jackson (883 posts) See mini bio
Shit got real, yo!
Post by handlas (54 posts) See mini bio
progressively going downhill in my eyes.  The whole Latino street thugs that end up caring for the elderly was pretty silly.  Taking Glen hostage...didn't really get that.  Searching for "Merle" was a bust (thought his name is Mauro?).  Then the ending...eh...good way to get rid of dead weight characters like the stereotypical abusive husband that no one cares about but then they already off one of the main characters in such a anti-climatic fashion was odd.
 
edit: oh ya...and what happened to the black dood with his son?  The show was at its best when it was just Grimes and that guy with his son.  This big group of survivors of which I don't know half their names is turning me off I think.  I think my favorite character is the buddy cop but they seem to be putting him on the back burner.  Have they said what happened to his family?  Did he even have one?  I can't remember at this point.
Post by leejunfan83 (12 posts) See mini bio
first episode was the best the rest have sucked 
Post by phoenix87x (195 posts) See mini bio
After feeling kind of underwhelmed from "tell it to the frogs", I really enjoyed this episode. The zombie sneak attack at the end was thrillingly chaotic, and gave merit to the hole digging. I still think they are moving way too easily through the city, after having so much trouble in the 2nd episode, No matter how quiet they are.  Also Daryl has really started to grow on me.
Post by sdnewman (54 posts) See mini bio
Daryl's growing on me, as well. Norman Reedus steals every scene he's in. I thought the gang thing was pretty pointless, although Merle is getting more interesting after seeing all of the shit he's been doing to stay alive. As a reader of the comic, I was happy to see the sneak attack finally happen. The comic is a lot more vicious, and has a greater sense of danger. The show is being too nice, and is moving too slow in my opinion. Hopefully they keep up the pace, and start getting rid of the minor characters more frequently.
Post by Blackout62 (93 posts) See mini bio
Ah yes because if theirs one thing this episode and my life in certain regions of California has taught me: it's that no force is more powerful than a Latino grandmother.
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