Paramount's Demands For Transformers 3 Screenings Might Be Screwing Theaters, Other Studios

Topic started by Rorie on June 23, 2011. Last post by not_a_bumblebee 1 year, 10 months ago.
Post by Rorie (3,216 posts) See mini bio

The jostling between studios for screens, especially 3D and digital projection screens, leads to a lot of weird demands from studios towards theaters. In the old days, in order to get a hot movie from a studio, theaters had to agree to show their less-desired films for a set amount of time; that practice was eventually deemed out of bounds by courts, but that doesn't mean that there aren't a bevy of ways that studios can put pressure on theaters to display their films in the manner that they desire. Usually those come in the form of minimum runtime contracts, where a film must be guaranteed to play on nicer screens for a set amount of time, or else your theater won't get it at all. That's the case for Transformers: Dark Of The Moon, apparently: Deadline is saying that Paramount is insisting that theaters project the film for a full four weeks in a digital theater, should one be available, which might make things a bit dicier for Cars 2, Captain America, and Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows, Part II to find nice screens to show on, especially in smaller theaters.

Paramount's also said that theaters have to show the film in 3D during the early screenings next Tuesday, or it won't be able to participate in those screenings, which might negatively impact Cars 2 a bit.

That kind of gamesmanship is not uncommon, especially when you're talking about what should wind up being the biggest film of the year; I always find the competing demands of studios to be a fairly fascinating, if un-talked-about aspect of the movie business, especially given that many theaters only have so many screens capable of showing 3D films. But Paramount and Michael Bay aren't stopping there; Bay has also taken note of the disappointing 3D grosses of films like Kung Fu Panda 2 and Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, took the unusual step of asking theater chains to brighten up their projections of his film, which will make the projector bulbs burn out faster, but will also hopefully counteract the much-derided dimness of the 3D experience. Whether or not he succeeds in those demands will be known next Tuesday, I suppose.

Bay's well-known for being demanding and headstrong, but if he can actually convince theater owners that the long-term survival of 3D, and those three or five dollar surcharges on the tickets, are worth going through an extra bulb every few months, then he'll probably be doing all of us a favor. Outside of bad 3D conversions, the dimness of 3D films feels like it's the most prominent complaint that people have about the technology, so a brighter image for a film that every American is legally required to see next week might be just what the doctor ordered to get people excited about the technology again, or at least not as antagonistic to it.

Are you planning on checking out Dark Of The Moon next Tuesday? I've already got my IMAX 3D tickets, and I'm planning on picking up a couple of earplugs and some Aleve beforehand if it's the kind of experience I expect it to be.

Post by Tofford (21 posts) See mini bio

I have always said Transformers would probably be my defending your movie choice. On the other hand these screen requirements seem ridiculous

Post by Crono11 (112 posts) See mini bio
How much longer until 3D is dead...
Post by OldGuy (130 posts) See mini bio
Nope. I don't need the headache that a Bay film (3D or no) causes me.
Post by GhostNPC (317 posts) See mini bio
It constantly makes me sick to my stomach to see how studios operate.  Disgusting.
Post by Toxin066 (741 posts) See mini bio

I had no idea Transformers was such a juggernaut.

Post by Kifftopher (6 posts) See mini bio

Why does Michael Bay get to keep on making movies? I will not be seeing it...

Post by tgammet (47 posts) See mini bio

If I do see it, it will be in 2D without all the extra ($$$) bs. I didn't like 2 at all, but my friends really want to see it and I'm not above explosions and awkwardly bending over motorcycles.

Post by Mistress_Redhead (2,848 posts) See mini bio
@Crono11 said:
How much longer until 3D is dead...
Post by ScanCase (893 posts) See mini bio
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Bay has also taken note of the disappointing 3D grosses of films like Kung Fu Panda 2 and Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, took the unusual step of asking theater chains to brighten up their projections of his film,

You can't just brighten the bulbs. You would have to install new bulbs with higher wattage. This isn't magic. There isn't a switch on the side of the projector that says "Make Brighter."

It's nice that Bay and Cameron make all these demands because they have more money then god. But the theatre's that they are making these demands of can't afford the bare minimum let alone all these demands. All the money is being spent on these projectors while the theatre's are being forced to cut payroll, which means firing people.

Post by RYU/BATMAN (30 posts) See mini bio
@Crono11 said:
How much longer until 3D is dead...
Never!
Post by GreatestEver99 (183 posts) See mini bio

@ScanCase: Was wondering if you knew how much it would cost a theater to replace a bulb and how much better it makes the movie look. Also if it would be worth it for a theater to do it and how many people would notice the difference.

Post by ScanCase (893 posts) See mini bio
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@GreatestEver99: To answer your question our Sony's use 4200w and 3000w bulbs that cost 1,500 dollars a piece. There's loads more info on my Blog. Part 1 Part 2

Post by Derangel (66 posts) See mini bio

I will not see Dark of the Moon in theaters 3D or otherwise unless someone else is paying for my tickets. After the utter shit that was Revenge of the Fallen I simply don't care. As for the 3D stuff, making the movie brighter could be helpful. I've seen two 3D movies in the theater and while Avatar didn't really suffer from the dimness issues, Pirates 4 sure as hell did. Aside from it just not being very good over-all, the 3D really ruined any fun I might have had with the movie by making it impossible to see at points.

Post by FinalDasa (2,773 posts) See mini bio
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I'm curious as to why they are making such demands. Are they worried the other summer potential blockbusters will deflate their earnings? Or are they just greedy and trying to suck every potential dollar out of every theater?

Post by ScanCase (893 posts) See mini bio
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@Derangel: That's because Cameron already new about the dimness issues of 3D and purposely cranked up the brightness of the film itself. it had nothing to do with the bulbs.

Post by The_Patriarch (260 posts) See mini bio

I hate these movies so goddamn much, and it honestly pains me that despite the last Transformers being complete and utter crap, people are still going to come out in droves to watch this. That the studio is now putting up these demands that will hurt upcoming movies makes it even worse.

And I even thought the first one was completely passable.

Post by Godlyawesomeguy (604 posts) See mini bio
Fuuuuuck no. There is no way in hell I am stepping into that theater to see that mindless, noisy, inane, garbage, and I say that, as a fan of Shoot Em' Up.
Post by ScanCase (893 posts) See mini bio
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@finaldasa: I would say greedy. the studio's look at the percentage increase of the box office every year. if that percentage is a negative by even one point they get nervous. with 3d they were able to boost prices and increase those percentages. so first they forced the theatre's to convert to digital projection (directly after Avatar came out, which is the source of these problems) and now the studios have made deals with VOD. The theatre's are being bullied around by the studio's.

Post by MrMazz (1,541 posts) See mini bio

I'm not seeing T3 unless someone buys my ticket but if they screw with me being able to see Harry Potter or Captain America we are going to have problems

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Name Transformers: Dark of the Moon
US Release June 29, 2011
UK Release July 1, 2011
AUS Release June 30, 2011
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