My only issue with First Class (spoilers)

Topic started by Joe on June 21, 2011. Last post by kashif1 1 year, 11 months ago.
Post by Joe (1,514 posts) See mini bio
I really enjoyed First Class. Thought it was great and I've never seen a X-Men film before. The only thing I didn't like is how easily Mystique sided with Magneto at the end. Her and Charles had been life-long friends, why would she ditch him like that... especially when he was in pain (powerfully played by James McAvoy, might I add). It just seemed like they needed an excuse to get her to go with Magneto in order to match up to the canon of the X-Men universe, but it seemed really false to me. Anyone else feel the same way?
Post by GreatestEver99 (183 posts) See mini bio

It was being eluded to the entire movie. Even if you didn't know the canon I think you could definitely tell what her choice was going to be. I do agree it didn't feel real. They did make it seem like they were as tight as tight could be and then she just leaves him in a serious situation. But it did boil down to what each side wanted and Magneto wanted what she wanted.

Post by Constantine (85 posts) See mini bio
I think the whole naked kitchen scene is key here, though I do agree
Post by MetalGearSunny (652 posts) See mini bio
It's all about the sex, man.
Post by MrMazz (1,542 posts) See mini bio

Charles new she wanted to go with Magneto casue he was 1 a bad ass 2 made her feel special 3 He was preaching a more pro mutant F intergration mantra which she agreed with

Post by Snail (772 posts) See mini bio
@MrMazz said:

Charles new she wanted to go with Magneto casue he was 1 a bad ass 2 made her feel special 3 He was preaching a more pro mutant F intergration mantra which she agreed with

Still, she left a man with whom she pretty much had a brotherly relationship standing there with a bullet hole in his back. She didn't even care if he was fine, if he could walk, etc. 
 
Yeah, that was a weak scripting cheat. Still, what confused me the most was the choice of the X-Men. I mean Havok was there, but Cyclops wasn't? The only one that was actually "canon" there (meaning the only member that was actually in the first class of X-Men) was Beast. I just don't quite understand the decision.
Post by AlwaysBeClothing (289 posts) See mini bio

Well, in a sense they were building that rift for the entire movie. Raven always had a complex about her appearance and Charles never really took that seriously. Then Raven's failed relationship with Beast and then shacking up with Magneto...

Realistically though, it doesn't make sense. I even thought the bullet ricochet and paralyzing Charles happened too quick and too coincidentally to wrap up that scene. In that movieverse, I'm not even sure it makes sense to paralyze him.

In any case, a movie about mutant powers should be taken with a grain of salt.

Post by MrMazz (1,542 posts) See mini bio

@Snail: ah yes the whole why the hell is havok in this and not cyclops even though there brothers things. Well they said they wanted to keep it in contunuity of the previous movies, which makes no sense they ruined any good stroyline with X3. First Class is a perfect chance to just soft reboot it like Abrams did with Star Trek

Post by The_Patriarch (260 posts) See mini bio

I felt it was built up pretty well over the course of the movie, but I can certainly see how in the specific scene, her decision came off as a bit rash.

As for the choice of X-Men to include, I loved it. We've seen Storm, Cyclops, Rogue and so forth in 3 movies already. Using some new, lesser known mutants was a big part of why I loved this movie.

Post by CoverlessTech (4 posts) See mini bio
Like everyone has said the split between Raven and Charles was building the entire film, pretty much every scene Raven was in was either widening the gap between them and closing a gap with Erik.
 
Think about it. The bar scene, the dorm(?) room scene, the kitchen scene. Raven obviously felt for Charles and he kept pushing her off.
Then she tried to find a relationship with someone else - Hank - but he was more worried about being "normal".
Erik came in when she was vulnerable and made her feel like there was a place where she belonged.
 
She did go to Charles first but they both knew what she really wanted.
Post by kashif1 (12 posts) See mini bio
@Snail said:
Still, what confused me the most was the choice of the X-Men. I mean Havok was there, but Cyclops wasn't?
Cyclops should be either a toddler or not born yet when this movie takes place
Post by Snail (772 posts) See mini bio
@kashif1 said:
@Snail said:
Still, what confused me the most was the choice of the X-Men. I mean Havok was there, but Cyclops wasn't?
Cyclops should be either a toddler or not born yet when this movie takes place
Then explain Banshee.
Post by kashif1 (12 posts) See mini bio
@Snail said:
@kashif1 said:
@Snail said:
Still, what confused me the most was the choice of the X-Men. I mean Havok was there, but Cyclops wasn't?
Cyclops should be either a toddler or not born yet when this movie takes place
Then explain Banshee.
simple, i had no idea who he was and neither did most viewers, so they could play around with his story.  Cyclops on the other hand is probably the second or third best known guy on the team,
Post by Snail (772 posts) See mini bio
@kashif1: Right. Same goes for Havok, for instance. I just don't understand why don't would be go so off-canon. But like @MrMazz said, it might be to match the story arc of the other X-Men movies, which I have never seen.
Post by kashif1 (12 posts) See mini bio
@Snail: the guys who wrote this movie said that they were more interested in telling a good story than continuity
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